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Subject: Re: Cray Blitz vs Belle [1981 North American Computer Chess Championship]

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 20:19:43 08/29/01

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On August 29, 2001 at 13:14:41, José Antônio Fabiano Mendes wrote:

>       Cray Blitz vs Belle [1981 North American Computer Chess Championship]
>   The (in)famous position Dr. Hyatt referred to the other day:
>   [D]5r1k/6p1/1n2Q2p/4p3/8/7P/PP4PK/R1B1q3 w
>   And here Cray Blitz played 28.Qxb6
>   Source: http://wondersmith.com/rants/howfar.htm

I understand that CB took only 10 seconds to play, and was limited to 1K nps.
However, I wanted to post this, to show only 1 thing:

position:

  8.01	 0:00 	-0.25 	1.Bf4 Qxa1 2.Bxe5 Kh7 3.Qxb6 Qxa2 4.b4 Rf7 5.Qe3 Qb1
(268.921) 312.3
  9.01	 0:02 	-0.18 	1.Bf4 Qxa1 2.Bxe5 Kh7 3.Qxb6 Qxa2 4.b4 Rf7 5.b5 Qd5 6.Qb8
(903.942) 321.2
  9.03	 0:04 	-0.17++ 	1.Bxh6 Qxa1 2.Qg6 Rg8 3.Bf4 Rb8 4.Bxe5 Rb7 5.Qc6 Kh7
6.Qxb7 Qg1+ 7.Kxg1 (1.356.976) 321.8
  9.03	 0:04 	 0.00 	1.Bxh6 Qxa1 2.Qg6 gxh6 3.Qxh6+ Kg8 4.Qg6+ Kh8 5.Qh6+ Kg8
(1.533.066) 325.0
 10.01	 0:07 	 0.00 	1.Bxh6 Qxa1 2.Qg6 gxh6 3.Qxh6+ Kg8 4.Qg6+ Kh8 5.Qh6+ Kg8
(2.517.038) 332.0
 11.01	 0:27 	+0.01 	1.Bxh6 Qxa1 2.Qe7 Rg8 3.Be3 Rc8 4.Bxb6 Qxb2 5.Bc7 Qxa2
6.Bxe5 Qg8 7.Qh4+ Qh7 8.Qg4 (9.074.087) 331.3
 12.01	 1:00 	+0.26++ 	1.Bxh6 Qxa1 2.Qe7 Rg8 3.Be3 Rc8 4.Bxb6 Qxb2 5.Bc7 Qxa2
6.Bxe5 Qxg2+ 7.Kxg2 Re8 8.Qxe8+ (19.746.518) 327.1
 12.01	 1:30 	+0.68 	1.Bxh6 Qxa1 2.Qe7 Rg8 3.Be3 Qb1 4.Bxb6 Qg6 5.Be3 Re8 6.Qd7
Kg8 7.a4 Qf7 8.Qc6 Kh8 (29.906.848) 331.8
best move: Bc1xh6 time: 3:04.325 min  n/s: 321.286  CPU 98.6%  nodes: 59.221.207

Deep Shredder here takes a little over 3 minutes, and plays Bxh6.  I choose 3
minutes, because it is a good time for an average tournament move.  In 3 minutes
it hits roughly 60M nodes, at a rate of 321K nps.

If CB had search 60M nodes, it would have taken 987 hours.  However, as you can
see in Deep Shredder's eval, it _NEVER_ looks at Qxb6.  So the knowledge is in
Deep Shredder.

Deep Shredder is one of those engines you were talking about earlier; SMK has
tried to balance knowledge and speed.  And it seems to work.  However, I
searched Nolot #9 for over an hour, I can already tell you, it's no Deep
Thought.  Or at least not on an AMD 1.2Ghz.  :)

I believe that Deep Shredder hitting 1M nodes a second, would be _EVIL_.  But
even on my 2x1.7Ghz, it still only gets rought 550-650 nps in easy middle game.
(I've seen it hit 1M in pawn endings.)  So that's a LONG way off!  Perhaps I
need to borrow an 8 way, then things would get interesting!


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