Author: Adam Oellermann
Date: 06:55:25 08/30/01
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On August 29, 2001 at 10:53:36, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On August 28, 2001 at 14:02:47, Roy Eassa wrote: > >>On August 28, 2001 at 13:41:29, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >> >>>>My program (Ferret) isn't professional, nor is Crafty. My program may be >>>>professional at some point. I doubt that Crafty will be. >>> >>>Crafty is a professional because Robert is of the opinion it is. >>> >> >> >>As I recall, Robert didn't say that the program, Crafty, is professional, but >>the the programmer, himself, is NOT an amateur chess programmer. (I think he >>also indicated that he's not a 'professional" chess programmer exactly either, >>and that there's an in-between category like "academic" that would best fit >>him.) >> >> > >I don't believe in the concept of professional _program_ or amateur _program_. >A program can't get paid, period. I am talking about the _author_. And I >simply believe that I have been doing this too long to be called an "amateur" >unless that is very tightly defined to say "an amateur author is someone that >has never written a game program and sold it." But we have never had such a >precise definition... > >Perhaps "hobbyist" would be a better category. I don't fit that very well >as I have written papers about what I have done, I have done funded research >on components of Cray Blitz (parallel search, etc). But the term "amateur" is >too imprecise and ought to be dropped... > >Otherwise we get into the "quest can't be bought, it is amateur" nonsense. Or >"XXXXXXX can be bought on a CD even if the author doesn't get a dime, so it is >professional." > >Neither of those leaves me with a warm, fuzzy feeling about the definition. > > > > >> >>>Someone alerted me on CSS that you were of the same opinion, but >>>if that is incorrect, then you are the 2001 Amateur World Champion. >>> >>>>Also, IsiChess has been sold. I know this to be true because I bought it. >>> >>>Then it falls under the pro's. >>> >>>-- >>>GCP I like the idea of just forgetting about the difference between amateur and professional. Don't have any categories; just have the programs. If those of us who are amateurs would like to organise a separate tournament with entry restricted to amateurs, it would be easy enough to do via a CCT-type medium. - Adam (thinking about entering next year if the politics gets smoothed out first)
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