Author: Joshua Lee
Date: 11:16:49 08/30/01
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On August 30, 2001 at 08:50:52, Mark Young wrote: >It has been suggested here that programs have made little progress in the last >10 years other then hardware speed. Here is the list of top programs 6 years >ago. Does anyone really think a program of 4, 6 or 10 years ago running on >modern but equal hardware would have a chance of beating a Junior 7, Deep Fritz, >Chess Tiger in a match. I think someone is pulling our legs. > >If the suggestion that programs have not progressed much is correct, then we >have been suckered by all programmers who offer us so called better and stronger >version of their programs. > The answer is yes, if you read the comments to the SSDF list they quote 79 points roughly per double Take Rebel 7's 2416 on a pentium 90 which would be 2495 on a 200Mhz and 2574 on the 450 and on the 1.2Ghz Athlon it will probably be more than 79points 2653 equal to Gambit Tiger 2.0 on a 450 ofcourse GT2 according to their 79point theory on the 1.2 Ghz should be around 2732 which sounds silly c'mon you really think any program on a 1.2 ghz athlon would be able to beat Capablanca at his peak ?? Wake the hell up but that is another argument... > > >THE SSDF RATING LIST 1995-11-26 >46104 games played by 146 computers >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Rating + - Games Won > Oppo >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ --- --- ----- --- > ---- > 1 MChess Pro 5.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2458 45 -42 284 67% > 2332 > 2 Genius 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2436 33 -31 498 66% > 2318 > 3 Rebel 7.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2416 36 -34 416 63% > 2325 > 4 Rebel 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2413 39 -38 340 61% > 2334 > 5 Hiarcs 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2409 38 -37 357 62% > 2325 > 6 MChess Pro 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2381 36 -36 376 56% > 2338 > 7 Rebel 7.0 486/50-66 MHz 2371 43 -41 288 62% > 2282 > 8 Fritz 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2370 35 -34 419 58% > 2311 > 9 Genius 3.0 486/50-66 MHz 2366 27 -26 750 65% > 2255 > 10 R30 v. 2.5 2357 79 -64 131 80% > 2122 > 11 Mephisto Genius 2.0 486/50-66 MHz 2343 26 -25 757 60% > 2272 > 12 WChess 1.06 Pentium 90 MHz 2327 36 -36 380 47% > 2350 > 13 MChess Pro 4.0 486/50-66 MHz 2324 27 -27 666 57% > 2278 > 14 Hiarcs 3.0 486/50-66 MHz 2311 28 -28 626 55% > 2273 > 15 Rebel 6.0 486/50-66 MHz 2310 26 -26 724 58% > 2254 > 16 Chess Machine 30-32 MHz Schroder 3.1 2306 32 -30 546 68% > 2175 > 17 Meph Genius 68 030 33 MHz 2302 53 -52 179 56% > 2257 > 17 WChess 1.03 486/50-66 MHz 2302 30 -30 538 49% > 2312 > 19 Ch.Machine 30 MHz King 2.0 aggr/R30 off 2301 22 -22 1070 67% > 2173 > 20 Chessmaster 4000 486/50-66 MHz 2295 34 -33 462 66% > 2175 > 21 Chess Genius 1.0 486/50-66 MHz 2291 26 -26 736 57% > 2241 > 22 MChess Pro 3.5 486/50-66 MHz 2280 26 -26 731 56% > 2236 > 23 Mephisto Gideon Pro 486/50-66 MHz 2275 35 -34 421 62% > 2187 > 24 MChess Pro 3.12 486/50-66 MHz 2268 36 -34 438 69% > 2125 > 25 Fritz 3.0 486/50-66 MHz 2265 26 -25 747 56% > 2225 > 26 Chess Genius 1.0 486/33 MHz 2252 33 -33 443 51% > 2244 > 27 Mephisto Vancouver 68030 36 MHz 2234 37 -34 451 73% > 2059 > 28 MChess Pro 3.12 486/33 MHz 2231 50 -48 208 60% > 2157 > 29 Kallisto 1.82-1.83 486/50-66 MHz 2227 26 -26 742 48% > 2244 > 30 Berlin Pro 68 020 24 MHz 2218 28 -27 676 63% > 2123 > 31 Kasparov SPARC 20 MHz 2213 28 -27 639 55% > 2174 > 32 Mephisto RISC 1 MB ARM 2 14 MHz 2206 23 -22 978 60% > 2133 > 33 Hiarcs Master 2.0 486/33 MHz 2205 46 -46 229 51% > 2196 > 34 Saitek RISC 2500 ARM2 14 MHz 128K 2196 23 -23 935 59% > 2132 > 34 Chess Machine Schroder 512K ARM2 16MHz 2196 27 -26 703 62% > 2112 > 36 Chess Machine The King 512K ARM2 16MHz 2179 32 -32 472 56% > 2139 > 37 Mephisto Montreux ARM 14 MHz 512K 2174 51 -46 238 72% > 2007 > 38 Mephisto Vancouver 68020 12 MHz 2163 24 -23 935 68% > 2027 > 39 Socrates 3.0 486/33 MHz 2145 49 -50 203 47% > 2166 > 40 Fritz 2.0 486/33 MHz 2138 30 -31 527 45% > 2172 > 41 Fidelity Elite 68030 32 MHz (vers.9) 2121 40 -37 372 73% > 1952 > 41 Mephisto Berlin 68 000 12 MHz 2121 25 -25 805 59% > 2059 > 43 Mephisto Vancouver 68000 12 MHz 2104 23 -22 971 57% > 2056 > 44 Novag Sapphire H8 10 MHz 2088 25 -25 787 52% > 2071 > 45 Hiarcs Master 1.0 486/33 MHz 2073 48 -48 214 48% > 2089 > 46 Fritz 1.0 486/33 MHz 2042 48 -47 215 55% > 2009 > 47 Nimzo 2.2.1 486/33 MHz 2036 46 -47 229 42% > 2091 > 48 Zarkov 3.0 486/25-33 MHz 2032 46 -48 232 39% > 2111 > 49 Rex Chess 2.3 386/25-33 MHz 2029 65 -62 126 59% > 1964 > 50 Kasparov Brute Force H8 10 MHz 2019 24 -24 860 47% > 2044 > 51 Novag Diablo 68000 16 MHz 2008 21 -22 1080 41% > 2072 > 52 Fidelity Mach III 68000 16 MHz 1994 14 -14 2404 52% > 1980 > 53 Complete Chess System 486/33 MHz 1986 47 -47 221 47% > 2008 > 54 Mephisto MM 5 6502 5 MHz 1981 20 -20 1264 49% > 1985 > 55 Kasparov President/GK-2100 H8 10 MHz 1975 29 -30 558 47% > 1997 > 56 Mephisto Polgar 6502 5 MHz 1971 17 -17 1693 42% > 2031 > 57 Mephisto Milano 6502 5 MHz 1966 24 -25 820 42% > 2026 > 58 Mephisto Amsterdam 68000 12 MHz 1926 22 -22 1020 58% > 1872 > 59 Kasparov GK-2000 H8 10 MHz 1897 29 -29 593 42% > 1953 > 60 Mephisto Modena 6502 4 MHz 1896 28 -29 615 41% > 1959 > 61 Psion Atari 68000 8 MHz 1882 18 -18 1487 44% > 1928 > 62 Novag Ruby H8 10 MHz 1878 30 -30 545 42% > 1934 > 63 Saitek Turboking II 6502 5 MHz 1868 23 -23 963 37% > 1964 > 63 Conchess Plymate Victoria 6502 5.5 MHz 1868 26 -27 701 40% > 1941
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