Author: Joshua Lee
Date: 11:34:46 08/30/01
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>The answer is yes, if you read the comments to the SSDF list they quote 79 >points roughly per double >Take Rebel 7's 2416 on a pentium 90 >which would be 2495 on a 200Mhz >and 2574 on the 450 >and on the 1.2Ghz Athlon it will probably be more than 79points > >2653 equal to Gambit Tiger 2.0 on a 450 >ofcourse GT2 according to their 79point theory on the 1.2 Ghz should be around >2732 which sounds silly c'mon you really think any program on a 1.2 ghz athlon >would be able to beat Capablanca at his peak ?? Wake the hell up but that is >another argument... > I just thought of something you're using an old list so why not look at the more finalized ratings of programs on a pentium 90 with Rebel 9 having 2335 in 890 games on the 2001-06-11 list 2414 on the 200Mhz machine 2493 on the 450Mhz and Rebel Century 3.0 with 546 games +- 30 points at 2518 Rebel Century 3 could be weaker : 2488 but the ratings now on the list look more stable than this so it is stronger than rebel 9..... I would believe by more than these 25 points seeing how Rebel 10 would claim maybe 30 points elo over the previous version etc. This just goes to show: 1. this is not an exact science on one hand the ratings say GT2 while a strong program it is is as good as Max Euwe on a K6-2 450??? and 2 a program 3? Versions old is only 25points weaker than the newest program on equal hardware 3 That SSDF should really think about testing all old computer software on the new hardware or they are just going to continue to put out a bogus list.wake up people > > > > >> >> >>THE SSDF RATING LIST 1995-11-26 >>46104 games played by 146 computers >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Rating + - Games Won >> Oppo >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> ------ --- --- ----- --- >> ---- >> 1 MChess Pro 5.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2458 45 -42 284 67% >> 2332 >> 2 Genius 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2436 33 -31 498 66% >> 2318 >> 3 Rebel 7.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2416 36 -34 416 63% >> 2325 >> 4 Rebel 6.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2413 39 -38 340 61% >> 2334 >> 5 Hiarcs 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2409 38 -37 357 62% >> 2325 >> 6 MChess Pro 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2381 36 -36 376 56% >> 2338 >> 7 Rebel 7.0 486/50-66 MHz 2371 43 -41 288 62% >> 2282 >> 8 Fritz 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz 2370 35 -34 419 58% >> 2311 >> 9 Genius 3.0 486/50-66 MHz 2366 27 -26 750 65% >> 2255 >> 10 R30 v. 2.5 2357 79 -64 131 80% >> 2122 >> 11 Mephisto Genius 2.0 486/50-66 MHz 2343 26 -25 757 60% >> 2272 >> 12 WChess 1.06 Pentium 90 MHz 2327 36 -36 380 47% >> 2350 >> 13 MChess Pro 4.0 486/50-66 MHz 2324 27 -27 666 57% >> 2278 >> 14 Hiarcs 3.0 486/50-66 MHz 2311 28 -28 626 55% >> 2273 >> 15 Rebel 6.0 486/50-66 MHz 2310 26 -26 724 58% >> 2254 >> 16 Chess Machine 30-32 MHz Schroder 3.1 2306 32 -30 546 68% >> 2175 >> 17 Meph Genius 68 030 33 MHz 2302 53 -52 179 56% >> 2257 >> 17 WChess 1.03 486/50-66 MHz 2302 30 -30 538 49% >> 2312 >> 19 Ch.Machine 30 MHz King 2.0 aggr/R30 off 2301 22 -22 1070 67% >> 2173 >> 20 Chessmaster 4000 486/50-66 MHz 2295 34 -33 462 66% >> 2175 >> 21 Chess Genius 1.0 486/50-66 MHz 2291 26 -26 736 57% >> 2241 >> 22 MChess Pro 3.5 486/50-66 MHz 2280 26 -26 731 56% >> 2236 >> 23 Mephisto Gideon Pro 486/50-66 MHz 2275 35 -34 421 62% >> 2187 >> 24 MChess Pro 3.12 486/50-66 MHz 2268 36 -34 438 69% >> 2125 >> 25 Fritz 3.0 486/50-66 MHz 2265 26 -25 747 56% >> 2225 >> 26 Chess Genius 1.0 486/33 MHz 2252 33 -33 443 51% >> 2244 >> 27 Mephisto Vancouver 68030 36 MHz 2234 37 -34 451 73% >> 2059 >> 28 MChess Pro 3.12 486/33 MHz 2231 50 -48 208 60% >> 2157 >> 29 Kallisto 1.82-1.83 486/50-66 MHz 2227 26 -26 742 48% >> 2244 >> 30 Berlin Pro 68 020 24 MHz 2218 28 -27 676 63% >> 2123 >> 31 Kasparov SPARC 20 MHz 2213 28 -27 639 55% >> 2174 >> 32 Mephisto RISC 1 MB ARM 2 14 MHz 2206 23 -22 978 60% >> 2133 >> 33 Hiarcs Master 2.0 486/33 MHz 2205 46 -46 229 51% >> 2196 >> 34 Saitek RISC 2500 ARM2 14 MHz 128K 2196 23 -23 935 59% >> 2132 >> 34 Chess Machine Schroder 512K ARM2 16MHz 2196 27 -26 703 62% >> 2112 >> 36 Chess Machine The King 512K ARM2 16MHz 2179 32 -32 472 56% >> 2139 >> 37 Mephisto Montreux ARM 14 MHz 512K 2174 51 -46 238 72% >> 2007 >> 38 Mephisto Vancouver 68020 12 MHz 2163 24 -23 935 68% >> 2027 >> 39 Socrates 3.0 486/33 MHz 2145 49 -50 203 47% >> 2166 >> 40 Fritz 2.0 486/33 MHz 2138 30 -31 527 45% >> 2172 >> 41 Fidelity Elite 68030 32 MHz (vers.9) 2121 40 -37 372 73% >> 1952 >> 41 Mephisto Berlin 68 000 12 MHz 2121 25 -25 805 59% >> 2059 >> 43 Mephisto Vancouver 68000 12 MHz 2104 23 -22 971 57% >> 2056 >> 44 Novag Sapphire H8 10 MHz 2088 25 -25 787 52% >> 2071 >> 45 Hiarcs Master 1.0 486/33 MHz 2073 48 -48 214 48% >> 2089 >> 46 Fritz 1.0 486/33 MHz 2042 48 -47 215 55% >> 2009 >> 47 Nimzo 2.2.1 486/33 MHz 2036 46 -47 229 42% >> 2091 >> 48 Zarkov 3.0 486/25-33 MHz 2032 46 -48 232 39% >> 2111 >> 49 Rex Chess 2.3 386/25-33 MHz 2029 65 -62 126 59% >> 1964 >> 50 Kasparov Brute Force H8 10 MHz 2019 24 -24 860 47% >> 2044 >> 51 Novag Diablo 68000 16 MHz 2008 21 -22 1080 41% >> 2072 >> 52 Fidelity Mach III 68000 16 MHz 1994 14 -14 2404 52% >> 1980 >> 53 Complete Chess System 486/33 MHz 1986 47 -47 221 47% >> 2008 >> 54 Mephisto MM 5 6502 5 MHz 1981 20 -20 1264 49% >> 1985 >> 55 Kasparov President/GK-2100 H8 10 MHz 1975 29 -30 558 47% >> 1997 >> 56 Mephisto Polgar 6502 5 MHz 1971 17 -17 1693 42% >> 2031 >> 57 Mephisto Milano 6502 5 MHz 1966 24 -25 820 42% >> 2026 >> 58 Mephisto Amsterdam 68000 12 MHz 1926 22 -22 1020 58% >> 1872 >> 59 Kasparov GK-2000 H8 10 MHz 1897 29 -29 593 42% >> 1953 >> 60 Mephisto Modena 6502 4 MHz 1896 28 -29 615 41% >> 1959 >> 61 Psion Atari 68000 8 MHz 1882 18 -18 1487 44% >> 1928 >> 62 Novag Ruby H8 10 MHz 1878 30 -30 545 42% >> 1934 >> 63 Saitek Turboking II 6502 5 MHz 1868 23 -23 963 37% >> 1964 >> 63 Conchess Plymate Victoria 6502 5.5 MHz 1868 26 -27 701 40% >> 1941
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