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Subject: Re: Another goodie (?).

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 14:04:38 08/30/01

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On August 30, 2001 at 16:53:28, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On August 30, 2001 at 16:20:55, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On August 30, 2001 at 13:31:57, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>
>>>The culprit is:
>>>
>>>[D]2r1kb2/1b3p2/p2pp3/2q3BQ/1p2PP2/1P4N1/1PPR4/1K6 w - -
>>>
>>>I don't know if there's any solution as such. Just that a program found f5 to be
>>>very attractive after more than 40 minutes of thinking. So if your computer is
>>>idle...
>>
>>Phalanx was stymied.
>
>I'm not surprised and I'm not even certain that 27.f5 (see game below) is the
>best move. But thought it interesting to see if someone would agree or disagree.
>Gandalf preferred Qd1 for a long time as well. Maybe a future Nolot position
>:-).
>
>[Event "Correspondance game (1 hour/move)"]
>[Site "TAFDtA"]
>[Date "2001.05.20"]
>[Round "3"]
>[White "Gandalf 5.0 Beta-1"]
>[Black "Comet B.33"]
>[ECO "B81"]
>[Result "1-0"]
>
>1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 e6 3. d4 cxd4 4. Nxd4 Nf6 5. Nc3 d6 6. g4
>h6 7. h4 Nc6 8. Rg1 h5 9. gxh5 Nxh5 10. Bg5 Nf6 11. Be2 a6
>12. Qd2 Qb6 13. Nb3 Qc7 14. h5 Nxh5 15. Rh1 g6 16. Bxh5
>gxh5 17. Qe2 b5 18. Rxh5 Rxh5 19. Qxh5 Bb7 20. O-O-O b4
>21. Ne2 Rc8 22. Rd2 Na5 23. Ng3 Nxb3+ 24. axb3 Qa5 25. Kb1
>Qe5 26. f4 Qc5 27. f5 Qg1+ 28. Rd1 Qxg3 29. fxe6 Qf2
>30. Bh4 Qxc2+ 31. Ka2 Rc7 32. Qg5 Re7 33. Rc1 Qxe4 34. Rc7
>Qxe6 35. Rxb7 f5 36. Qh5+ Rf7 37. Rb8+ Kd7 38. Qg5 Qd5
>39. Qd8+ Ke6 40. Qc8+ Ke5 41. Qxa6 Kf4 42. Rxb4+ Ke3
>43. Bd8 Qd3 44. Bb6+ Ke2 45. Qa8 Qf3 46. Qc8 1-0
>

Yace seems to wobble back and forth between f5 and Qd1.
What was the evaluation at the time f5 was selected?

Yace output:
white ( 1): go
usetime = 143997.98, mintime = 71998.99 maxtime = 143997.98 tl 143997.98 ml 1
        20   0.041  -6.38  1t  1.Rxd6 Qxc2+ 2.Ka2 Bxd6 {-510}
        37   0.044  -0.14  1t  1.f5 {-10}
        72   0.050  -0.14  1.  1.f5 {-10}
       156   0.057  -2.03  2-- 1.f5 Qg1+ 2.Rd1 Qxg3 {-350}
       246   0.067  -2.50  2t  1.f5 Qg1+ 2.Rd1 Qxg3 3.fxe6 {-270}
       548   0.070  -1.76  2t+ 1.Ne2 Qc6 {-10}
       591   0.075  -1.59  2t  1.Ne2 Bxe4 {-90}
       655   0.082  -1.56  2t+ 1.Qg4 Qg1+ 2.Rd1 Bxe4 {-90}
       727   0.088  -0.54  2t  1.Qg4 Bg7 {-10}
       997   0.097  -0.49  2t+ 1.Qd1 f5 {-10}
      1069   0.100  -0.45  2t  1.Qd1 Be7 {-10}
      1120   0.107  -0.45  2.  1.Qd1 Be7 {-10}
      1516   0.114  -0.45  3t  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 {340}
      1952   0.120  -0.43  3t+ 1.Qg4 Bg7 2.f5 {-10}
      2036   0.127  -0.43  3t  1.Qg4 Bg7 2.f5 {-10}
      3000   0.135  -0.42  3t+ 1.Rg2 Bg7 2.f5 {-10}
      3073   0.138  -0.42  3t  1.Rg2 Bg7 2.f5 {-10}
      3605   0.146  -0.42  3.  1.Rg2 Bg7 2.f5 {-10}
      5836   0.157  -0.55  4t  1.Rg2 Qd4 2.Qf3 Bg7 {-10}
      7691   0.166  -0.54  4t+ 1.Qd1 Qxg5 2.fxg5 Bxe4 {561}
      9409   0.173  -0.45  4t  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 {-10}
     15214   0.191  -0.45  4.  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 {-10}
     20813   0.209  -0.47  5t  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.Qg4 f6 {-10}
     40688   0.270  -0.46  5t+ 1.Qf3 Bg7 2.Nh5 Ba8
     45836   0.287  -0.43  5t  1.Qf3 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.Qd3 f6 {-10}
     52543   0.312  -0.43  5.  1.Qf3 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.Qd3 f6 {-10}
     97960   0.441  -0.49  6t  1.Qf3 Bg7 2.Qd1 d5 3.Nh5 Bh8 {-10}
    112884   0.477  -0.48  6t+ 1.Qd1 Bg7 2.Rxd6 Qxd6 3.Qxd6 f6 {571}
    157722   0.616  -0.45  6t  1.Qd1 a5 2.e5 d5 3.Bf6 Rc7 {-10}
    248719   0.853  -0.45  6.  1.Qd1 a5 2.e5 d5 3.Bf6 Rc7 {-10}
    375811   1.200  -0.35  7t  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.Qg4 Qg1+ 4.Rd1 Qf2H
                               5.c4H {-10}
    496184   1.463  -0.35  7.  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.Qg4 Qg1+ 4.Rd1 Qf2 5.c4
                               {-10}
    797628   2.256  -0.28  8t  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qf3 f6 5.Qd3
                               {-10}
   1270188   3.369  -0.28  8.  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qf3 f6 5.Qd3
                               {-10}
   2614213   6.778  -0.12  9t  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qg4 d4 5.f5 Rd8
                               {-10}
   3693708   9.254  -0.12  9.  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qg4 d4 5.f5 Rd8
                               {-10}
   5961612  14.920  -0.16 10t  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qg4 Qe3 5.Qg5+
                               Kd7 6.Rg2 d4 {-10}
  14260329  34.226  -0.16 10.  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qg4 Qe3 5.Qg5+
                               Kd7 6.Rg2 d4 {-10}
  20957239  51.699  -0.13 11t  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qg4 Qg1+ 5.Rd1
                               Qf2 {HT} {-10}
  33974165  1:22.3  -0.13 11.  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qg4 Qg1+ 5.Rd1
                               Qf2 {HT} {-10}
  51710804  2:07.7  -0.09 12t  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qg4 Qg1+ 5.Rd1
                               Qf2 6.Ne2 Kd7 7.Nd4 Ke8 {-10}
  92273438  3:47.5  -0.08 12t+ 1.f5 Qg1+ 2.Rd1 Qxg3 3.fxe6 Rc7 4.exf7+ Kd7
                               5.Bh6 Bxe4 6.Bxf8 Bxc2+ 7.Ka1 Kc6 8.Bxd6 Qxd6
                               9.Rxd6+ Kxd6 {231}
 122012556  5:03.8   0.00 12t  1.f5 Qg1+ 2.Rd1 Qxg3 3.fxe6 Qf2 4.Rd2 Qe1+
                               5.Ka2 Qf1 6.Rd1 Qf2 7.Rd2 Qf1 {-270}
 144245753  5:58.2   0.00 12.  1.f5 Qg1+ 2.Rd1 Qxg3 3.fxe6 Qf2 4.Rd2 Qe1+
                               5.Ka2 Qf1 6.Rd1 Qf2 7.Rd2 Qf1 {-270}
 278514705 11:14.4  -0.11 13t  1.f5 Qg1+ 2.Rd1 Qxg3 3.fxe6 Rc7 4.exf7+ Kd7
                               5.Bh6 Rc8 6.Bxf8 Rxf8 7.e5 Qf4 8.Rxd6+ Ke7
                               9.Rf6 Qe4 10.Kc1 {-110}
 308107042 12:34.2  -0.10 13t+ 1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qg4 Qg1+ 5.Rd1
                               Qf2 6.Ne2 Kd7 7.Nd4 f5 8.exf6 Qxf4 {-10}
 351821063 14:39.1  -0.07 13t  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qg4 Qe3 5.Rd1
                               Kd7 6.Qg7H {HT} {-10}
 604134616 25:18.9  -0.07 13.  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qg4 Qe3 5.Rd1
                               Kd7 6.Qg7 {HT} {-10}
 743183116 31:36.1  -0.04 14t  1.Qd1 Be7 2.Bxe7 Kxe7 3.e5 d5 4.Qg4 Qe3 5.Rd1
                               Qf2 6.Ne2 a5 7.Nd4 Ba6 8.f5 {-10}




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