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Subject: Re: Back in time

Author: Pham Minh Tri

Date: 17:25:49 08/30/01

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On August 30, 2001 at 11:28:54, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On August 30, 2001 at 10:20:12, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On August 30, 2001 at 09:51:42, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On August 30, 2001 at 08:50:52, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>It has been suggested here that programs have made little progress in the last
>>>>10 years other then hardware speed. Here is the list of top programs 6 years
>>>>ago. Does anyone really think a program of 4, 6 or 10 years ago running on
>>>>modern but equal hardware would have a chance of beating a Junior 7, Deep Fritz,
>>>>Chess Tiger in a match. I think someone is pulling our legs.
>>>
>>>
>>>I think someone can't read.  "slow and steady" is not equal to "little"
>>>I _clearly_ said that "there has been no revolutionary ideas in computer chess
>>>in a long time.  progress has been slow and steady."
>>>
>>>How you make the giant leap to "little progress" is a mystery only you can
>>>answer.
>>
>>You will answer it for my Bob! Here is your Quote and the full text.
>>
>>Bob's Statement:
>>"Part of the progress has been due
>>to incremental changes to chess engines/evaluations/etc, part has been due to
>>the hardware speed advances.  Probably more of the latter than the former, if
>>the truth is known..."
>>
>>
>
>
>
>OK... I give up.  Where did I say "there has been little progress in software
>over the past 10 years or so."??
>
>The above seems to be exactly what I have been saying for many years.  Slow
>and steady progress in the software, with more rapid progress in the hardware
>speeds.
>
>So again, please answer _the question_ and show me where I said there had been
>little software progress in the past 10 years.  You haven't shown that so far.
>

Hi Bob,
How do you think about parallel algorithms? Just in few years, many top chess
programs apply them to speed up search several times. Is it a little or big
progress? Do you consider them as a software or hardware achievement?





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