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Subject: Re: Past - Presence : Genius 4 - Chess Tiger 14.1

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:34:23 08/31/01

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On August 31, 2001 at 02:34:47, Peter Berger wrote:

>On August 31, 2001 at 00:11:24, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>I agree with christophe that the time control is too fast.
>>
>
>Christophe said nothing like that . He expressed his concern that the 486
>computer is still too fast compaired to a Palm and his speed numbers indeed
>suggest this is probably true ( his idea to make up for this with the longer
>time conrol assumes diminishing returns btw, doesn't it ;) ? ). I will have to
>think about how to get a good and valid test of speed.
>
>>I am more interested what happens at tournament time control(120/40)
>
>Then please test it :).

I am afraid that I am not interested enough to do it.
>
>>and I believe that tiger earns more from time because Genius is optimized for
>>blitz.
>
>People keep saying that all the time .. I don't buy it - a little excerpt from
>the SSDF list:
>
>  61 Shredder 1.0 Pentium 90 MHz             2282   59   -58   145   53%  2263
>  62 Nimzo 3.0  Pentium 90 MHz               2279   26   -25   767   58%  2220
>  63 R30 v. 2.5                              2274   41   -38   343   69%  2135
>  64 Hiarcs 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz               2273   30   -30   545   56%  2228
>  65 Genius 4.0 DOS 486/50-66 MHz            2265   23   -23   900   49%  2269
>  66 Junior 3.3-3.5  Pentium 90 MHz          2257   31   -31   516   47%  2277
>  67 Genius 3.0 486/50-66 MHz                2255   24   -23   910   62%  2168
>  68 MChess Pro 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz           2254   29   -29   578   52%  2238
>  69 CometA90  64MB P200 MMX                 2252   37   -39   358   36%  2351
>  70 192  64MB P200 MMX                      2248   44   -46   248   41%  2316
>  71 Fritz 3.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2240   18   -19  1438   42%  2297
>  72 Mephisto Genius 2.0  486/50-66 MHz      2235   23   -23   917   58%  2176
>  73 Fritz 4.0 Pentium 90 MHz                2233   40   -39   324   60%  2163
>  74 WChess 1.06 Pentium 90 MHz              2230   20   -20  1222   39%  2308
>  75 MChess Pro 5.0 486/50-66 MHz            2227   26   -26   691   50%  2229
>  76 Kallisto 1.98 Pentium 90 MHz            2226   21   -22  1049   42%  2283
>
>It seems that Genius 4 is the strongest computer program tested on 486 CPUs so
>far at tournament time control and can even compete with Shredder 1 , Nimzo 3
>and Fritz 4 on Pentium 90 and Comet A90 on Pentium 200 MMX .

Genius3 was the strongest also at tournament time control at the time that it
played but I believe that it earns less from time relative to the top programs
of today and it means that it was optimized for blitz because if the target is
to write the best program at tournament time control then a different algorithm
is better.
>
>If you think about it - how did Genius get all of its WM titles with its said
>blitz optimization ?

The blitz optimization is relative to the top programs of today and not
relative to the programs of the past.

Uri



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