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Subject: Refuting nonsense about 64 bits servers/supercomputer chips

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 05:40:46 09/01/01

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On September 01, 2001 at 02:48:22, Sandro Necchi wrote:

Oh what a nonsense thread!

Let's put it this way, making a 64 bits server/supercomputer
chip is taking many years,
so far we have heart nothing from AMD they want to make one,
so logically seen it would take at least another 6 to 7 years to
build one for AMD.

Intel is going to dominate 64 bits market completely now
that they have taken over Alpha,
though this market is of 0% value for computerchess, because
those computers are in price ranges from like $20000 a machine
to many millions of dollars for the bigger servers.

Chance AMD is going to compete there is the same chance that
Coca Cola is going to build a starship enterprise that is travelling
to mars.

The 64 bits server/supercomputer market is completely different
from a fast PC processor.

That those fast PCs kick that butt of the P4 pc processor
completely (especially price range), as well from the
servers from alpha and especially from SUN and all other cpu
brands when running 32 bits (computerchess) software,
that's very nice of course, otherwise intel would
be the new world order ruling the world soon, like M$ does
in the software world now and even could release its XP plans,
which for any other market where there is competition would
mean signing your own death sentence.



>On September 01, 2001 at 02:28:02, Terry McCracken wrote:
>
>>On September 01, 2001 at 01:32:08, Sandro Necchi wrote:
>>
>>>On August 31, 2001 at 22:38:50, leonid wrote:
>>>
>>>>On August 31, 2001 at 20:58:17, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,59825,00.asp
>>>>>
>>>>>Pichard.
>>>
>>>Hi Leonid,
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for putting this link! All the time my pleasure to read about something
>>>>new and better from Intel.
>>>>
>>>>From those that read computer magazine, today I  found first description in "PC
>>>>magazine" about new Intel's 64 bits chip. All other magazines stayes strangely
>>>>silent.
>>>>
>>>>One 64 bits new Intel's computer was priced at $60.000.
>>>>
>>>>I hope that it will be not that long before AMD will come with something very
>>>>exciting.
>>>
>>>I feel it will not and that AMD will come with a killer CPU. I mean very
>>>powerful and relatively cheap. I hope I am not wrong.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Leonid.
>>>
>>>Sandro Necchi
>>
>>They very well might, but AMD may see a "Chip War" that will be beyond their
>>capibality to win!
>>
>>
>>Intel has had a bad rap for processor power since 1999, with the introduction
>>of the AMD Athlon Processor.
>>
>>Now Intel has developed with the aid of Hewlett Packard, the Itanium Processor,
>>which is a Quantum Leap in IA/64 technology, which will continue to grow each
>>year.
>>
>>The P-4 is a daring idea, but came too soon. Now it appears Intel intends to
>>rectify that problem, and they have the know-how to accomplish their goals.
>
>Yes, but when a company can sell chips that generally perform (as far is chess)
>well even at a lower frequency is (to me) ahead!
>So if this is true they may have already something better to bring to the market
>when it will be the right time. This is what I suspect. Maybe I am wrong. Time
>will tell.
>>
>>I hope AMD can and will compete for supremacy as it will continue to put
>>the impetus on Intel to stay ahead and vice versa. IMO
>
>This is what I think. I feel AMD will relatively soon bring to the market a
>cheaper and more powerful 64 bit processor. It's just a feeling. With K7 they
>have shown to have the knowledge.
>>
>>Terry
>
>Sandro



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