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Subject: Re: Alexei Shirov vs Set-top box !!

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 21:16:02 09/01/01

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On September 01, 2001 at 15:20:18, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 01, 2001 at 14:52:05, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On September 01, 2001 at 13:23:09, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>[Event "Rapid"]
>>>[Site "Berlin"]
>>>[Date "2001.08.31"]
>>>[Round "?"]
>>>[White "Schredder 5.32"]
>>>[Black "Schirow,A"]
>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>[ECO "D19"]
>>>[BlackElo "2706"]
>>>
>>>1. d4 d5 2. c4 c6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Nf3 dxc4 5. a4 Bf5 6. e3 Nbd7 7. Bxc4 e6 8. O-O
>>>Bb4 9. Qe2 Bg6 10. e4 O-O 11. Bd3 h6 12. Rd1 Rc8 13. Bf4 a6 14. Rab1 Re8 15.
>>>Bc2 Qe7 16. Na2 Ba5 17. b4 Bc7 18. Bxc7 Rxc7 19. Qe3 e5 20. dxe5 Nxe5 21. Nxe5
>>>Qxe5 22. f3 c5 23. bxc5 Rxc5 24. Bb3 Rec8 25. Nb4 Rc3 26. Qb6 Bxe4 27. fxe4
>>>Ng4 28. Bxf7+ Kxf7 29. Qd6 Qxd6 30. Rxd6 Rc1+ 31. Rd1 Rxd1+ 32. Rxd1 Rc4 33.
>>>Rb1 Rxe4 34. a5 Re5 35. h3 Ne3 36. Nd3 Rb5 37. Rxb5 axb5 38. Nc5 b4 39. Kf2 Nc4
>>>40. Nb3 Ke6 41. Ke1 Kd5 42. Ke2 Ne5 43. Kd2 Kc4 44. Kc2 Nc6 45. Nd2+ Kb5 46.
>>>Ne4 Nxa5 47. Nd6+ Ka4 48. g3 b3+ 49. Kb1 b5 0-1
>>>
>>>After move 26. Qb6 (white):
>>>
>>>[D]2r3k1/1p3pp1/pQ3nbp/4q3/PN2P3/1Br2P2/6PP/1R1R2K1 b - -
>>>
>>>Shirov played now fantastical 26...Bxe4!
>>>
>>>Report:
>>>
>>>http://www.chessbase.com/news/ifa-berl1.htm
>>>
>>>Eduard
>>
>>Analysis by Junior7
>>
>>New position
>>2r3k1/1p3pp1/pQ3nbp/4q3/PN2P3/1Br2P2/6PP/1R1R2K1 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Junior 7(PIII800):
>>it needs only 6 seconds to find Bxe4
>>
>>1...h5 2.Rd8+ Rxd8 3.Qxd8+
>>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>>1...Bh5 2.Rd8+ Rxd8 3.Qxd8+
>>  ²  (0.45)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>>1...Bh7 2.Rd8+ Rxd8 3.Qxd8+
>>  ²  (0.42)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>>1...R3c7 2.Nd3
>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
>>1...R3c7 2.Nd3 Qe7 3.Qd4
>>  ²  (0.47)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  5kN
>>1...h5 2.Rd8+ Rxd8 3.Qxd8+ Qe8 4.Qd4 Qc8
>>  ²  (0.46)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  11kN
>>1...Qf4 2.Rd8+ Kh7 3.Nd3 Qd2 4.Rd1
>>  ²  (0.38)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  34kN
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R3xc5 3.Kf2 Kf8
>>  =  (0.22)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  37kN
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R3xc5 3.Bd5 R5c7 4.Kf2 Kf8
>>  ²  (0.33)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  79kN
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R3xc5 3.Nd3 R5c7 4.Ne5 Kh7 5.a5 Rc5 6.Nxf7
>>  ²  (0.40)   Depth: 12   00:00:01  798kN
>>1...Bxe4!
>>  =  (0.03)   Depth: 12   00:00:06  4173kN
>>1...Bxe4! 2.fxe4 Ng4 3.g3 Nxh2 4.Bxf7+ Kxf7 5.Qxb7+ Kf8 6.Rd3 Qh5 7.Rxc3 Rxc3
>>  =  (-0.23)   Depth: 12   00:00:09  6245kN
>>1...Bxe4 2.fxe4 Ng4 3.g3 Nxh2 4.Bxf7+ Kxf7 5.Qxb7+
>>  =  (-0.22)   Depth: 14   00:00:24  16198kN
>>1...Bxe4 2.fxe4 Ng4 3.g3 Nxh2 4.Qd6 Nf3+ 5.Kf2 Qxe4 6.Qf4 Qe8 7.Rd3 Ng5 8.Qf5
>>Ne4+ 9.Kg2 b5 10.Rxc3
>>  ³  (-0.37)   Depth: 16   00:02:02  80276kN
>>
>>(Blass, Tel-aviv 01.09.2001)
>>
>>Deep Fritz is 24 times slower
>>New position
>>2r3k1/1p3pp1/pQ3nbp/4q3/PN2P3/1Br2P2/6PP/1R1R2K1 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Analysis by Deep Fritz:
>>
>>1...Rxb3--
>>  ±  (0.91)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>>1...Rxb3-- 2.Rxb3
>>  +-  (1.97)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>1...Nxe4!
>>  +-  (1.91)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>>1...Nxe4! 2.Rd8+ Rxd8
>>  ±  (1.12)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
>>1...Qf4!
>>  ±  (1.06)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
>>1...Qf4! 2.Qxb7
>>  ±  (0.72)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
>>1...R8c7!
>>  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
>>1...R8c7! 2.Rd8+
>>  =  (0.22)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
>>1...Qe7!
>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
>>1...Qc5+!
>>  =  (0.03)   Depth: 1/10   00:00:00
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R3xc5
>>  =  (0.06)   Depth: 2/6   00:00:00
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R8xc5 3.Rd8+ Kh7
>>  =  (0.12)   Depth: 3/9   00:00:00
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R3xc5 3.Nd5 Nxd5 4.Bxd5
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 4/14   00:00:00  2kN
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R3xc5 3.Nd3 Rc3 4.a5
>>  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 5/15   00:00:00  13kN
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R3xc5 3.Nd3 Rc3 4.a5 Kf8
>>  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  42kN
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R3xc5 3.Nd3 Rc3 4.Ne5 Kf8 5.a5
>>  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 7/16   00:00:00  142kN
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R3xc5 3.Nd3 Ra5 4.Nf4 Kh7 5.Rbc1 Rac5 6.Rxc5
>>  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 8/21   00:00:00  408kN
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R3xc5 3.Nd3 Ra5 4.Rdc1 Rxc1+ 5.Rxc1 b5 6.Rc8+ Kh7 7.Nc5
>>  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 9/21   00:00:01  933kN
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R3xc5 3.Nd3 Ra5 4.Kf1 b5 5.Ne5 Bh5 6.axb5 axb5 7.Ke2
>>  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 10/23   00:00:03  2066kN
>>1...Qc5+ 2.Qxc5 R3xc5 3.Kf2 Kf8 4.Nd3 Rc3 5.Ne5 b5 6.axb5 axb5 7.Nxg6+
>>  ²  (0.37)   Depth: 11/27   00:00:10  7080kN
>>1...Kh7!
>>  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 11/32   00:00:36  25086kN
>>1...Kh7 2.Nd3 Qc7 3.Qxc7 R8xc7 4.Nb4 R7c5 5.Rb2 Re3 6.Bd5 a5
>>  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 12/33   00:01:24  57535kN
>>1...Bxe4!
>>  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 12/33   00:02:24  100287kN
>>1...Bxe4! 2.fxe4 Ng4 3.g3 Rxg3+ 4.hxg3 Qxg3+ 5.Kf1 Qh3+ 6.Ke2 Qh2+ 7.Ke1
>>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 12/35   00:02:35  108242kN
>>
>>(Blass, Tel-aviv 01.09.2001)
>>
>>Note that both programs see 3.g3 in the main line and not 3.Bxf7+
>>
>>Uri
>
>And they are wrong because 3.g3 Rxg3+ 4.hxg3 Qxg3+ 5.Kf1 Qf4+
>is a more simple win for black
>
>Deep Fritz does not see it at tournament time control on p800 and here is Deep
>Fritz's analysis
>
>New position
>2r3k1/1p3pp1/pQ5p/4q3/PN2P1n1/1Br5/6PP/1R1R2K1 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Deep Fritz:
>
>3.Bxf7+--
>  +-  (1.66)   Depth: 1/6   00:00:00
>3.Bxf7+-- Kxf7
>  ±  (0.75)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>3.Qxb7!
>  ±  (0.88)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>3.Qxb7! Qxh2+
>  ±  (1.13)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>3.Rd8+!
>  ±  (1.38)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
>3.Rd8+! Rxd8
>  +-  (1.94)   Depth: 1/8   00:00:00
>3.Rd8+ Kh7 4.Rxc8 Qxh2+ 5.Kf1
>  +-  (1.78)   Depth: 2/11   00:00:00
>3.Rd8+ Rxd8 4.Qxd8+ Kh7 5.Bxf7
>  +-  (1.66)   Depth: 3/13   00:00:00  1kN
>3.Rd8+--
>  ±  (1.34)   Depth: 4/13   00:00:00  3kN
>3.Rd8+-- Rxd8 4.Qxd8+ Kh7 5.Qb6 Qxh2+ 6.Kf1 Ne3+ 7.Ke1
>  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 4/17   00:00:00  4kN
>3.g3!
>  ²  (0.34)   Depth: 4/18   00:00:00  10kN
>3.g3! Nxh2 4.Rd8+ Rxd8 5.Qxd8+ Kh7 6.Bxf7
>  ±  (1.03)   Depth: 4/18   00:00:00  14kN
>3.Bxf7+!
>  ±  (1.06)   Depth: 4/19   00:00:00  16kN
>3.Bxf7+! Kxf7 4.Qxb7+ Kf8 5.Rf1+ Ke8
>  ±  (1.22)   Depth: 4/19   00:00:00  18kN
>3.Bxf7+ Kxf7 4.Qxb7+ Kg6 5.Qxa6+ Kh7 6.h3 Qh2+ 7.Kf1
>  ±  (1.31)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  29kN
>3.Bxf7+ Kxf7 4.Qxb7+ Kg6 5.Qxa6+ Kh7 6.Qd6 Qxe4
>  ±  (1.03)   Depth: 6/24   00:00:00  81kN
>3.Bxf7+ Kxf7 4.Qxb7+ Kg6 5.Qxa6+ Kh7 6.Qd6 Qxe4 7.Nd5
>  ±  (1.16)   Depth: 7/25   00:00:00  243kN
>3.Bxf7+--
>  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 8/28   00:00:01  1004kN
>3.Bxf7+-- Kf8 4.g3 Rxg3+ 5.hxg3 Qxg3+ 6.Kf1 Qf3+ 7.Ke1 Qxe4+ 8.Kd2 Qg2+
>  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 8/30   00:00:01  1310kN
>3.Bxf7+--
>  ²  (0.28)   Depth: 9/34   00:00:04  3043kN
>3.Bxf7+-- Kxf7 4.Qxb7+ Kg6 5.Qxa6+ R8c6 6.Qxc6+ Rxc6 7.Nxc6 Qxh2+ 8.Kf1 Qf4+
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 9/34   00:00:04  3412kN
>3.Bxf7+--
>  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 10/30   00:00:09  6874kN
>3.Bxf7+-- Kxf7 4.g3 Qxe4 5.Nd5 Rc2 6.Qxb7+ R8c7 7.Qxc7+ Rxc7
>  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 10/32   00:00:11  8255kN
>3.g3!
>  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 10/32   00:00:13  9277kN
>3.g3! Rxg3+ 4.hxg3 Qxg3+ 5.Kf1 Qf3+ 6.Kg1 Qg3+ 7.Kf1 Qf3+ 8.Kg1 Qg3+
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 10/32   00:00:13  9798kN
>3.g3--
>  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 11/32   00:00:27  19049kN
>3.g3-- Nxh2 4.Bxf7+ Kxf7 5.Qxb7+ Kg6 6.Rd3 Rxd3 7.Qxa6+
>  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 11/36   00:00:32  22661kN
>3.g3 Nxh2 4.Qd6 Nf3+ 5.Kf2 Qxe4 6.Qf4 Ng5 7.Bxf7+ Kh7 8.Qxe4+ Nxe4+
>  ³  (-0.41)   Depth: 12/35   00:01:18  54829kN
>3.g3 Rxg3+ 4.hxg3 Qxg3+ 5.Kf1 Qf4+ 6.Kg1 Qh2+ 7.Kf1 Qh1+ 8.Ke2 Qxe4+
>  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 13/37   00:03:25  145908kN
>3.g3 Rxg3+ 4.hxg3 Qxg3+ 5.Kf1 Qf4+ 6.Kg1 Qh2+ 7.Kf1 Qh1+ 8.Ke2 Qxe4+
>  ³  (-0.44)   Depth: 14/38   00:08:05  344969kN
>
>(Blass, Tel-aviv 01.09.2001)
>
>Uri

Yes Uri, after g3 win black easy! I think that in this situation for white is
Bxf7 better than g3. Shirov played very nice! :)

Eduard



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