Author: Slater Wold
Date: 23:17:33 09/01/01
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On September 02, 2001 at 01:42:49, Uri Blass wrote: >On September 01, 2001 at 20:23:09, Slater Wold wrote: > >>On September 01, 2001 at 20:11:16, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>On September 01, 2001 at 20:03:18, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>This is a question which I've now resorted to asking, since the programs which >>>win most games seem to not necesarily be the greatest tactical visionaries, and >>>also not necesarily the greatest planners or knowledge programs, and possibly, >>>not even the best of both, but something else still. >>> So I only want to know which is best in tactics alone. >>> Also, while we're at it, which is best in knowledge alone. >>>Which wins most games? I can easily find that out for myself when results come >>>out. >>>Thanks >>>S.Taylor >> >>I'd say Fritz is the king of tactics. And Shredder the king of knowledge. > >Is Shredder the king of knowledge? > >I could only laugh about it's knowledge when it evaluated the position against >Deep Junior in WCCC as +5 and lost the game. > >A program with knowldge could understand that Junior has chances and not to >evaluate the position so high. > >Uri Geez man, everytime I post something, you post something contradicting me. From Nolot, to SE, to this! (And in the case of SE, Bruce and Bob have both asked you to prove your claims, and you have yet to do so.) I don't argue with people on this board, I've made that a rule of thumb. So when people post things, that I takes as trying to start an arguement, I just look the other way. As I have with your last 3 or 4 replies to my posts. Shredder is commonly, and usually refered to as the program with the most "programmed knowledge." Matthias Gemuh seems to think so too, so I am not the only one. And there is not a _SINGLE_ engine I haven't seen evalute a position as a HUGE advantage to itself, only later to lose. That's not stupidity, that's computer chess. I've seen Deep Fritz say it's up +9.00 and draw. Bob has reported he has been up +5.00 and drawn, against HUMANS! Sometimes things just don't pan out. In the last month, I've seen more posts about how "stupid" Junior 7 is (in it's play, being too agressive) than I have ever heard of Shredder doing stupid things. So next time you post something, replying to me, instead of simply "laughing" why don't you give your thoughts on the subject, instead of simply bashing someone elses? Perhaps then you'll come off as being more a part of this board, and a little less like a troll. And at least you'll give me a chance to laugh back at you. Slate
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