Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 13:19:34 09/03/01
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On September 03, 2001 at 15:57:14, Uri Blass wrote: >On September 03, 2001 at 14:50:27, Eduard Nemeth wrote: > >>I played a game against Tiger 14 today (120'/40 Level), see my post "Golden >>eyes", and Tiger thinking and thinking...but makes bad moves. Ok, this first >>game was a HARD tactical position for computers. >> >>I played now an another game against Tiger 14 and I played the NORMAL "Two >>Kings" variation. But what makes Tiger? He played after 15 minutes (!) on a BAD >>move. I can this not understand, sorry! > >I believe that the main problem of tiger here is >the fact that tiger is a preprocessor. > >If you compare the evaluation after 12.Nf6+ gxf6 and the evaluation >after 12.gxf3 Ne7 you can see that tiger's evaluation is better after >12.gxf3 Ne7 and not after 12.Nf6+ gxf6 but tiger cannot see >it's evaluation after these moves in the root position. > >Tiger14's analysis after 12.Nf6+ gxf6 >Chess Tiger 14.0 - Blass,U >[D]r3k2r/ppp1Bp1p/2n2p2/7q/3p4/5b2/PPP2PPP/R2QR1K1 w kq - 0 1 > >Analysis by Chess Tiger 14.0: > >13.Bxf6+ Kd7 14.Qxf3 Qxf3 15.gxf3 Rhg8+ 16.Kh1 Rg6 17.Bh4 Rag8 18.Re4 > = (-0.12) Depth: 8 00:00:00 94kN >13.Bxf6+ Kd7 14.Qxf3 Qxf3 15.gxf3 Rhg8+ 16.Kf1 Rg6 17.Bh4 Rag8 18.Bg3 Nb4 19.Re2 > = (-0.18) Depth: 9 00:00:00 195kN >13.Bxf6+ Kd7 14.Qxf3 Qxf3 15.gxf3 Rhg8+ 16.Kf1 Rg6 17.Bh4 Rag8 18.Bg3 Nb4 19.Re2 > = (-0.18) Depth: 10 00:00:02 509kN >13.Bxf6+ Kd7 14.Qxf3 Qxf3 15.gxf3 Rhg8+ 16.Kh1 Rg6 17.Bh4 Rag8 18.Rad1 a6 19.Bg3 >h6 20.Re4 > = (-0.06) Depth: 11 00:00:04 1171kN >13.Bxf6+ Kd7 14.Qxf3 Qxf3 15.gxf3 Rhg8+ 16.Kh1 Rg6 17.Bh4 Rag8 18.Rad1 f6 19.Re3 >f5 20.f4 > = (-0.10) Depth: 12 00:00:10 2554kN >13.Bxf6+ Kd7 14.Qxf3 Qxf3 15.gxf3 Rhg8+ 16.Kh1 Rg6 17.Bh4 Rag8 18.Rad1 a6 19.Bg3 >h6 20.Kg2 f5 21.Re3 > = (0.00) Depth: 13 00:00:24 6135kN > >(Blass, Tel-aviv 03.09.2001) > > >Tiger14's analysis after 12.gxf3 Ne7 >Chess Tiger 14.0 - Blass,U >[D]r3k2r/ppp1nppp/8/7q/3pN3/5P2/PPP2P1P/R2QR1K1 w kq - 0 1 > >Analysis by Chess Tiger 14.0: > >13.Qxd4 0-0 14.Nf6+ gxf6 15.Rxe7 Qxf3 16.Rxc7 Rac8 > = (0.10) Depth: 8 00:00:00 87kN >13.Qxd4 0-0 14.Nf6+ gxf6 15.Rxe7 Qxf3 16.Rxc7 Rac8 17.Qd7 Rxc7 18.Qxc7 > = (0.10) Depth: 8 00:00:00 136kN >13.Qxd4 0-0 14.Nf6+ gxf6 15.Rxe7 Qxf3 16.Rae1 Qc6 17.Qg4+ Kh8 18.Qf5 > ² (0.54) Depth: 9 00:00:04 849kN >13.Qxd4 0-0 14.Nf6+ gxf6 15.Rxe7 Qxf3 16.Rae1 Kh8 17.Qe4 Rg8+ 18.Kf1 Qh3+ 19.Ke2 > ² (0.26) Depth: 10 00:00:05 1144kN >13.Qxd4 0-0 14.Nf6+ gxf6 15.Rxe7 Qxf3 16.Qd3 Qxd3 17.cxd3 Rac8 18.Rc1 Rfe8 >19.Rcxc7 Rxc7 20.Rxc7 > ² (0.34) Depth: 11 00:00:10 2169kN >13.Qxd4 0-0 14.Nf6+ gxf6 15.Rxe7 Qxf3 16.Qd3 Qxd3 17.cxd3 Rac8 18.Rc1 Rfe8 >19.Rcxc7 Rxc7 20.Rxc7 > ² (0.34) Depth: 12 00:00:18 3899kN >13.Qxd4 0-0 14.Nf6+ gxf6 15.Rxe7 Qxf3 16.Qd3 Qxd3 17.cxd3 Rac8 18.Rc1 Rfe8 >19.Rcxc7 Rxc7 20.Rxe8+ Kg7 21.d4 > ² (0.32) Depth: 13 00:00:40 8741kN > >(Blass, Tel-aviv 03.09.2001) > >Uri I see this. nevertheless is my opinion that for move 12 (after 15 minutes!) a program must another play and NOT Nf6+, and the score > +0.60 is FANTASY! this is now real: Neue Stellung [D]r5r1/pppk1p1p/2n2B2/8/3p4/5P2/PPP2P1P/R3R1K1 w - - 0 1 Analysis by Chess Tiger 14.0: 11.Kf1 Tg6 2.Lh4 Tag8 3.Lg3 Sb4 4.Tad1 c5 5.c3 Sc6 6.cxd4 cxd4 7.Ke2 Ke6 8.Kd3+ Kd5 9.a3 f5 = (-0.14) Tiefe: 16 00:03:00 29677kN 1.Kf1 Tg6 2.Lh4 Tag8 3.Ted1 h5 4.Lg3 Kc8 5.Tac1 f5 6.h4 f4 7.Lxf4 Tf6 8.Lg3 Txf3 9.Ke2 = (-0.20) Tiefe: 17 00:07:04 72212kN Eduard
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