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Subject: Re: Athlon 1.4 vers intel P4 2.0

Author: Aaron Gordon

Date: 14:50:50 09/03/01

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On September 03, 2001 at 16:54:29, Terry McCracken wrote:

>On September 03, 2001 at 16:18:06, CLiebert wrote:
>
>>On September 03, 2001 at 13:05:47, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>
>>>On September 03, 2001 at 06:44:03, CLiebert wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 02, 2001 at 18:32:35, Terry McCracken wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 02, 2001 at 13:36:02, CLiebert wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On September 02, 2001 at 10:07:33, Aaron Tay wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sorry if this is a old question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>But does the Athlon thunderbird 1.4 GHZ still out perform the P4 2.0 GHZ in for
>>>>>>>Chess programs?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I guess "yes" !
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Christian
>>>>>
>>>>>I have to say "no" this time!
>>>>>
>>>>>The P-4 2.0Ghz is beating the Athlon 1.4Ghz on every benchmark, so I'd say
>>>>>it would speed up a chess programme as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>Terry
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Did it??
>>>>
>>>>May be you should have a look at some drystones
>>>>which are much more important for chess than gameframes!
>>>>
>>>>A1500/147FSB. KT266A; 	4331 Drystones
>>>>A1400, KT266 		3965
>>>>P4-2.0, 		3788
>>>>
>>>>tom is testing very "intel friendly", if you would like
>>>>to read another test try this link:
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>Is there an English Site/Version?
>>>
>>>
>>>Also the "New" P-4 will be built using Intel's "New" 0.13 micron process
>>>running at speeds next year that'll exceed 2Ghz, I'd expect even higher
>>>than the 3.5Ghz demo.
>>>
>>>The "Northwood" core will be far more powerful the "Willimett" core. This is http://www.tecchannel.de/hardware/673/index.html
>the
>>>next step in the evolution of the P-4.
>>>
>>>As I said, time will tell.
>>>
>>>Terry
>>
>>
>>
>>That time will tell isn´t very surprising for me?! But are you living in the
>>future or today?
>>
>>Especially for your dreams I have the following news for you ;-)
>>
>>
>>AMD Hammer Model 3500+ Near?
>>By Zach Gusky
>>Date: August 31, 2001
>>
>>2.0 GHz AMD Hammer Chip Coming Soon?
>>
>>Industry sources, moles, and various others [ed: could that be us?] have rumored
>>the fact that AMD is MUCH closer to completion of its Hammer series of MPUs than
>>the chipmaker lets on.  The Hammer, AMD's next generation line of 64-bit
>>processors, is perhaps sampling already and could be ready to sell in Q1 of next
>>year.  AMD's public line on these chips is that they won't be ready until the
>>second half of next year.
>>
>>Some articles and reports suggest that a 2.0 GHz Sledgehammer will be equivalent
>>to three 1 GHz Athlons.  If this is so and if the Athlon was the basis for AMD’s
>>upcoming “Model” rating system, then we could infer that a 2.0 GHz
>>Sledgehammer’s "Model" rating would be 3000+.  But the Athlon is not the basis
>>for AMD’s upcoming “Model” nomenclature -- the Intel Pentium 4 is.
>>
>>I believe the whole reason for AMD's, at first glance, apparently ludicrous
>>return to a “PR”-type naming system is that, when compared to the P4, this 2 GHz
>>Hammer would carry around a 3500+ rating.  And this may be at a time when Intel
>>Pentium 4 line tops out at 2.2 GHz.  [ed: Could this be why Intel demoed the 3.5
>>GHz P4 at IDF last week?]
>>
>>The AMD Model rating system may not look healthy now when the scheme is being
>>applied to Palomino Athlons, but when consumers realize they are getting a 2.0
>>GHz chip that can perform roughly at equivalent levels with nonexistent 3.5 GHz
>>Intel Pentium 4s, they will indeed be surprised...
>
>Thanks I've read this already....taking it with a grain of salt.
>The P4 will be run at speeds of 10Ghz before they "top out"!:)
>I suspect AMD's 64/IA will be costly and like the Itanium, not optimized for
>32/IA, which means if the programmers don't make 64 bit ver. of their software
>I doubt the 64 bit chips will improve the performance of the current 32 bit
>programmes.
>
>This was discussed sometime back by Dr. Hyatt and others, in regards to Intel's
>Itanium Processor.
>
>Regardless, do you have an English Version of this site?
>
>http://www.tecchannel.de/hardware/673/index.html
>
>
>
>Terry


Actually the x86-64/Sledgehammer WILL be highly optimized for 64bit AND 32bit
stuff. Itanium is priced ridiculously and runs like garbage in 32bit
applications. I definately will grab the Sledgehammer as soon as possible. If
Intel continues to screw up they are going to be in some serious trouble. ;)



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