Author: Slater Wold
Date: 15:15:34 09/03/01
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On September 03, 2001 at 11:42:07, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: >On September 03, 2001 at 09:58:26, Slater Wold wrote: > >>I have a very close friend who works at AMD in Austin, Texas. I recently saw >>that a local computer store was selling an Athlon MP 1.4Ghz processor. I went >>to AMD's homepage to look for specs, and was amazed that there wasn't a single >>word on an Athlon MP 1.4Ghz. > >As i said helpdesks at AMD are a disaster, they don't inform >their own personal even. > >Crafty ran at a dual 1.4Ghz tbird system and in belgium there are >1.4Ghz Athlon MPs. There are _NO_ such thing as Atlon MP 1.4Ghz chips. I took a look at one today, and it has a rectangle die, while the MP dies are square. Once again, it's a 1.4Ghz AMD Athlon, but it was not intended to be used on a SMP machine. > >I have a dual 1.2Ghz Athlon MP, and the reason they sell so bad >is because they do not sell the chips in large quantities yet >and it's very expensive anyway this chip. > >To get a MP processor in europe is IMPOSSIBLE without going through hell. > >Add to that, that till a few weeks ago AMD didn't officially release the >MP processor, only a mobile processor was released with that core. > >>I called my friend, Friday afternoon and asked him about this. He told me that >>there was no such thing as an Athlon MP 1.4Ghz, but he would see if the regular >>K7 would work, with the Tyan mobo. He called me back about an hour later, and >>said he spoke with some engineers on the matter. Simply put, it _COULD_ work, >>but would be a disaster. > >it works great for crafty, diep and many other programs. > >AND IT WAS FASTER THAN MY OWN DUAL 1.2MP!! > >And this wasn't a joke story at all, crafty really participated there! > >Your AMD friend is probably from the cleaning crew? If not then >that's typical showing how the AMD helpdesk works! Actually he works in Quality Assurance, and all he does is test AMD products all day. > >No the crafty machine wasn't overclocked. Even had bios 1.01... ...which >would be a disaster to run other software than a few chessprograms. You cannot overclock the any of the MP760 Tyan boards. > >>He gave me a brief explanation, but it bascially ended up being the way the >>CPU's accessed the memory. Simply put, the MP processors are MP processors for >>a reason, and the K7's will not work properly. > >Old stepping tbirds definitely do not work properly, new stepping >seems to work great! From http://ask.amd.com/SRVS/CGI-BIN/WEBCGI.EXE/,/?St=50,E=0000000000016591457,K=1569,Sxi=14,Problem=obj(4733). "AMD Athlon™ MP Model 6 Processors Supported in Multi-Processing Systems AMD Athlon™ processors, including those based on the Model 4 core, and AMD Duron™ processors are not tested, supported, or intended by AMD to be used for operation in multi-processing platforms. AMD Athlon MP Model 6 processors are the only processors currently supported by AMD for use in multi-processing platforms." > >>He also told me, those who are waiting for the MP 1.4Ghz, don't hold your >>breath. It seems everyone WANTED a dual Athlon system, and now that they are >>here, no one seems to be buying them. > >As i said, if you go to a shop there are no MPs buyable there. If you then >ask the first answer is always: "i can't deliver those dude". > >>Anyway, sorry about your troubles Vince. I have a dual PIV Xeon 1.7Ghz system, >>and I know your pain. While heat might be less of an issue for me, I had >>problems from the power supply, to getting an ATA100 drive to work in anything >>other than PIO mode. I had cache on chips go bad, and every other problem you >>can imagine, also. However, luckly I was not on a deadline like you. :) >>Slate > >Yep the deadline was the problem. Also a big problem was the helpdesk >from AMD and especially Tyan. > >both don't seem to have a helpdesk... Customer service with a lot of computer part manufacturers have gone to hell nowadays. I guess when the only good processors in the world are AMD and Intel (for x86 systems) you can pretty much do whatever the hell you want, and people really cannot do much about it. Sad but true.
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