Author: CLiebert
Date: 03:58:58 09/04/01
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On September 03, 2001 at 19:54:46, Terry McCracken wrote: >On September 03, 2001 at 17:50:50, Aaron Gordon wrote: > >>On September 03, 2001 at 16:54:29, Terry McCracken wrote: >> >>>On September 03, 2001 at 16:18:06, CLiebert wrote: >>> >>>>On September 03, 2001 at 13:05:47, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>> >>>>>On September 03, 2001 at 06:44:03, CLiebert wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On September 02, 2001 at 18:32:35, Terry McCracken wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On September 02, 2001 at 13:36:02, CLiebert wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>On September 02, 2001 at 10:07:33, Aaron Tay wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>Sorry if this is a old question. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>But does the Athlon thunderbird 1.4 GHZ still out perform the P4 2.0 GHZ in for >>>>>>>>>Chess programs? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>I guess "yes" ! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>Christian >>>>>>> >>>>>>>I have to say "no" this time! >>>>>>> >>>>>>>The P-4 2.0Ghz is beating the Athlon 1.4Ghz on every benchmark, so I'd say >>>>>>>it would speed up a chess programme as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Terry >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>Did it?? >>>>>> >>>>>>May be you should have a look at some drystones >>>>>>which are much more important for chess than gameframes! >>>>>> >>>>>>A1500/147FSB. KT266A; 4331 Drystones >>>>>>A1400, KT266 3965 >>>>>>P4-2.0, 3788 >>>>>> >>>>>>tom is testing very "intel friendly", if you would like >>>>>>to read another test try this link: >>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>Is there an English Site/Version? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Also the "New" P-4 will be built using Intel's "New" 0.13 micron process >>>>>running at speeds next year that'll exceed 2Ghz, I'd expect even higher >>>>>than the 3.5Ghz demo. >>>>> >>>>>The "Northwood" core will be far more powerful the "Willimett" core. This is http://www.tecchannel.de/hardware/673/index.html >>>the >>>>>next step in the evolution of the P-4. >>>>> >>>>>As I said, time will tell. >>>>> >>>>>Terry >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>That time will tell isn´t very surprising for me?! But are you living in the >>>>future or today? >>>> >>>>Especially for your dreams I have the following news for you ;-) >>>> >>>> >>>>AMD Hammer Model 3500+ Near? >>>>By Zach Gusky >>>>Date: August 31, 2001 >>>> >>>>2.0 GHz AMD Hammer Chip Coming Soon? >>>> >>>>Industry sources, moles, and various others [ed: could that be us?] have rumored >>>>the fact that AMD is MUCH closer to completion of its Hammer series of MPUs than >>>>the chipmaker lets on. The Hammer, AMD's next generation line of 64-bit >>>>processors, is perhaps sampling already and could be ready to sell in Q1 of next >>>>year. AMD's public line on these chips is that they won't be ready until the >>>>second half of next year. >>>> >>>>Some articles and reports suggest that a 2.0 GHz Sledgehammer will be equivalent >>>>to three 1 GHz Athlons. If this is so and if the Athlon was the basis for AMD’s >>>>upcoming “Model” rating system, then we could infer that a 2.0 GHz >>>>Sledgehammer’s "Model" rating would be 3000+. But the Athlon is not the basis >>>>for AMD’s upcoming “Model” nomenclature -- the Intel Pentium 4 is. >>>> >>>>I believe the whole reason for AMD's, at first glance, apparently ludicrous >>>>return to a “PR”-type naming system is that, when compared to the P4, this 2 GHz >>>>Hammer would carry around a 3500+ rating. And this may be at a time when Intel >>>>Pentium 4 line tops out at 2.2 GHz. [ed: Could this be why Intel demoed the 3.5 >>>>GHz P4 at IDF last week?] >>>> >>>>The AMD Model rating system may not look healthy now when the scheme is being >>>>applied to Palomino Athlons, but when consumers realize they are getting a 2.0 >>>>GHz chip that can perform roughly at equivalent levels with nonexistent 3.5 GHz >>>>Intel Pentium 4s, they will indeed be surprised... >>> >>>Thanks I've read this already....taking it with a grain of salt. >>>The P4 will be run at speeds of 10Ghz before they "top out"!:) >>>I suspect AMD's 64/IA will be costly and like the Itanium, not optimized for >>>32/IA, which means if the programmers don't make 64 bit ver. of their software >>>I doubt the 64 bit chips will improve the performance of the current 32 bit >>>programmes. >>> >>>This was discussed sometime back by Dr. Hyatt and others, in regards to Intel's >>>Itanium Processor. >>> >>>Regardless, do you have an English Version of this site? >>> >>>http://www.tecchannel.de/hardware/673/index.html >>> >>> >>> >>>Terry >> >> >>Actually the x86-64/Sledgehammer WILL be highly optimized for 64bit AND 32bit >>stuff. Itanium is priced ridiculously and runs like garbage in 32bit >>applications. I definately will grab the Sledgehammer as soon as possible. If >>Intel continues to screw up they are going to be in some serious trouble. ;) > >So I've heard...but the Itanium although compatible with 32 bit programmes is >mean't for the "Next Generation" processing, for servers and supercomputers. > >I doubt the chip is "Garbage" even in 32 bit apps. > >Intel and Hewlett Packard both worked together for years to design it, and >it "Will" take the server industry by storm. > >If the AMD/64 bit chip is "Cheap" then I doubt it will be even half as complex;) > >Terry Soory, I found no english version of the link above but I have another one for you to watch some benchmarks... http://www.zdnet.de/techexpert/artikel/tests/cpu/200108/p42g_06-wc.html Christian
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