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Subject: Re: Time to pick new moderators. You might want to start nominations

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 07:33:50 09/06/01

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On September 05, 2001 at 01:08:21, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On September 04, 2001 at 21:22:24, Bob Green wrote:
>
>>I actually am Bob Green, and no other.
>>
>>I **did not** know that CCC was created to get away from Mr.Tueschen.  Why was
>>this so?  Is there a "history of CCC" (revisionist or otherwise :) that I can
>>read?  For the neophyte I know the following to be true:
>>
>>1. Bruce Moreland, Dann Corbin, Dr. Hyatt, Gian-Carlo Pascutto, and others
>>provide great insight on the theory of chess programming.  This is true both
>>here and RGCC.
>>
>>2. For some reasons unknown, Bruce Moreland and Dr. Hyatt are vehemently
>>disliked by some unknown persons who may be someone Chris W or Sean somebody.
>>Why this happens is unclear even though many words are written about some
>>affront, editting, or opinon.  No matter why, the rancor is there.
>
>Bob and I have history with some of these people going back to about 1995.  It's
>a long and boring history, many aspects of which I don't want to bother to
>remember.
>
>The group was founded to get away from Rolf and a few others.  Ed, for instance,
>was so bothered by Rolf that he sued him.  I never knew exactly what that was
>about, but the suit was thrown out on a technicality.
>
>>3. Clearly, many people feel strongly about Rolf Tueschen, typically equally
>>vehemently disliking him.  Why also remains unclear.
>
>If you want to figure this out, go to www.google.com, search the usenet group
>"rec.games.chess.computer", for posts containing "rolf tueschen pope", written
>by "TUESCHEN.MEDIZIN_KUNSTFEHLER@t-online.de".
>
>You can also try "rolf tueschen pope fachidiot" if you want to narrow it a bit.
>
>Read through that for a bit and realize that there was a *lot* of it happening
>for a *long* time.  Maybe this will give you an idea of what was going on, and
>maybe not.
>
>I think that there were a lot of people trying to get rid of him by going
>through his ISP.
>
>These days I would just kill-file him if he bothered me, but that wasn't a
>common option back then, so the group was constantly full of this stuff.
>
>Rolf was banned here for bad reasons for perhaps a year (?).  He's not banned
>here now.  As far as I know he has not posted here since 1997.
>
>>4. I took a zigzag route through a field not knowing the number of landmines
>>when I made a sincere recommendation (not nomination as Ms. Sara Bird rightfully
>>points out) for Mr. Tueschen because I **like** his "lets all calm down and let
>>bye gones be bye gones" recent written words.

I would bet a new Porsche vs a Mattel Hot Wheel toy that what has been written
in R.G.C.C was _not_ written by Rolf.  (1) it doesn't sound like him at all;
(2) the vocabulary/style is wrong;  (3) the posts were from aol, which was
_never_ used by him (he used t-online.de exclusively).

This is most likely yet another hoax, intended to fuel the flames rather than
anything else.

Before I would worry that that was actually Rolf, I would be more concerned
with building myself a meteor-proof shelter.  The odds of getting hit by a
meteor are higher.




>
>I hope that you and Sara will be able to understand things from each others'
>point of view.
>
>>In retrospect, I wish I had e-mailed him and asked if he actually wanted this
>>before doing so.
>>
>>I actually do not like politics - I prefer to program.  Logging on after a long
>>weekend I am surprised at the amount of comments on this topic.
>
>I don't like it either but I manage to get involved.  When I started doing
>computer chess, I made a conscious decision not to have any enemies.  This
>lasted for perhaps two years, but now I have a few.  It's a big waste of time,
>and I prefer to spend as little time dealing with this as possible.
>
>bruce
>
>>Best regards,
>>
>>Bob Green


For Sean/clones, I have simply adopted a policy of "no comment under _any_
circumstances."  For Rolf, I do the same.  As I do for a few of their
"cohorts".  It makes life easier.  And it aggravates the living hell out of
them as well.  :)



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