Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:33:50 09/06/01
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On September 05, 2001 at 01:08:21, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On September 04, 2001 at 21:22:24, Bob Green wrote: > >>I actually am Bob Green, and no other. >> >>I **did not** know that CCC was created to get away from Mr.Tueschen. Why was >>this so? Is there a "history of CCC" (revisionist or otherwise :) that I can >>read? For the neophyte I know the following to be true: >> >>1. Bruce Moreland, Dann Corbin, Dr. Hyatt, Gian-Carlo Pascutto, and others >>provide great insight on the theory of chess programming. This is true both >>here and RGCC. >> >>2. For some reasons unknown, Bruce Moreland and Dr. Hyatt are vehemently >>disliked by some unknown persons who may be someone Chris W or Sean somebody. >>Why this happens is unclear even though many words are written about some >>affront, editting, or opinon. No matter why, the rancor is there. > >Bob and I have history with some of these people going back to about 1995. It's >a long and boring history, many aspects of which I don't want to bother to >remember. > >The group was founded to get away from Rolf and a few others. Ed, for instance, >was so bothered by Rolf that he sued him. I never knew exactly what that was >about, but the suit was thrown out on a technicality. > >>3. Clearly, many people feel strongly about Rolf Tueschen, typically equally >>vehemently disliking him. Why also remains unclear. > >If you want to figure this out, go to www.google.com, search the usenet group >"rec.games.chess.computer", for posts containing "rolf tueschen pope", written >by "TUESCHEN.MEDIZIN_KUNSTFEHLER@t-online.de". > >You can also try "rolf tueschen pope fachidiot" if you want to narrow it a bit. > >Read through that for a bit and realize that there was a *lot* of it happening >for a *long* time. Maybe this will give you an idea of what was going on, and >maybe not. > >I think that there were a lot of people trying to get rid of him by going >through his ISP. > >These days I would just kill-file him if he bothered me, but that wasn't a >common option back then, so the group was constantly full of this stuff. > >Rolf was banned here for bad reasons for perhaps a year (?). He's not banned >here now. As far as I know he has not posted here since 1997. > >>4. I took a zigzag route through a field not knowing the number of landmines >>when I made a sincere recommendation (not nomination as Ms. Sara Bird rightfully >>points out) for Mr. Tueschen because I **like** his "lets all calm down and let >>bye gones be bye gones" recent written words. I would bet a new Porsche vs a Mattel Hot Wheel toy that what has been written in R.G.C.C was _not_ written by Rolf. (1) it doesn't sound like him at all; (2) the vocabulary/style is wrong; (3) the posts were from aol, which was _never_ used by him (he used t-online.de exclusively). This is most likely yet another hoax, intended to fuel the flames rather than anything else. Before I would worry that that was actually Rolf, I would be more concerned with building myself a meteor-proof shelter. The odds of getting hit by a meteor are higher. > >I hope that you and Sara will be able to understand things from each others' >point of view. > >>In retrospect, I wish I had e-mailed him and asked if he actually wanted this >>before doing so. >> >>I actually do not like politics - I prefer to program. Logging on after a long >>weekend I am surprised at the amount of comments on this topic. > >I don't like it either but I manage to get involved. When I started doing >computer chess, I made a conscious decision not to have any enemies. This >lasted for perhaps two years, but now I have a few. It's a big waste of time, >and I prefer to spend as little time dealing with this as possible. > >bruce > >>Best regards, >> >>Bob Green For Sean/clones, I have simply adopted a policy of "no comment under _any_ circumstances." For Rolf, I do the same. As I do for a few of their "cohorts". It makes life easier. And it aggravates the living hell out of them as well. :)
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