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Subject: Re: Thorsten Czub?

Author: Fernando Villegas

Date: 09:34:23 05/18/98

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On May 18, 1998 at 10:58:45, Thorsten Czub wrote:

Dear Thorsten:
Although I dont like the entire idea of moderators and I will not
participate in any election contest or whatever for being one of them, I
truly recognize that If I was to be one, I would apply the same ideas
and common sense rules you have sketched. I feel to be, also, a right
brain guy also. To one right-brain guy to another you can count with my
vote as already you have my friendship.
fernando



>Ok -
>my name is Thorsten Czub, I am 31.
>Computerchess is my hobby.
>I am doing computerchess for a while. Therefore the possibilities of
>sharing and enjoying it with friends are numerous. This place is ONE
>example how to share  "chess-shit" (as Bob's wife said) with other
>people.
>
>I don't like to censor or shout at people.
>After all the "experience" I had with NO moderation in rgcc,
>i have found out that sometimes one would have to
>delete posts with insulting stuff into it.
>
>I would have deleted some of my posts too. Since some of them were
>heated and offending. Normally i should (after a night sleep or even
>earlier) apologize when I have done something wrong.
>E.g. I thought (I was mistaken) Djorde Vidanovic is RT.
>This was a mistake. I was so involved in finding out which emails or
>posts are faked that i thought: this one could be a faked one too.
>
>An apology does not excuse anything.
>But it helps mainly myself to sleep better the next nights.
>
>I would like to see the people here in CCC discuss and talk without
>attacking each other for days or weeks.
>Sometimes I fail to do this myself, since some topics are very important
>to me (ideals, ethics, fair-competition, new ideas in computerchess,
>No-monopolism).
>
>I think nothing (especially no IDEA) is so important that it should be
>more valueable than human-beeings, friends and human-rights.
>
>Also no rule or no law should be that GENERAL that it will be misused
>against people.
>
>Rules are FOR people and not against them.
>
>A principle shall not be more important than wishes of other people.
>
>Normally i differenciate between peoples actions, and people themselves.
>
>I could HATE somebodies IDEAS or OUTPUT about a topic, but I would go
>eat with him, or drink a beer. Or be together with him in a community.
>I would not call him my friend, but I would let him live his own life.
>On the other hand I would not invite him at my home or lend him the key
>of my car. Or allow him to use my PC.
>
>Nobody should ever be thrown-out or censored.
>Anybody needs a second chance or more chances.
>But when somebody fails all chances, the group has to react and the
>moderator has to do something.
>Since we are talking about computerchess and not about IMPORTANT stuff,
>it should then be allowed to send this guy a yellow-card. And if he does
>not behave any better = on-topic and not insulting, he should get a red
>card.
>
>It is difficult for me to stay on topic since i do mainly think with the
>right-brain-part. And this halve is associative and connects all kind of
>"same-levelled topics together". It works different than the left
>brain-halve.
>But who knows what is better.
>
>Hip or squared, left or right-brain-halve, chess has the same rules.
>
>And Internet is the right way and the right place to communicate.
>Never ever was this possible, that the people joining one hobby could
>meet each other without paying too much, on a common place, and chat.
>We should not let this destroy by people who have all kind of personal
>problems or want to be "famous" by attacking other people.
>
>The best "moderators" are friends anyway ! And the best experience is
>when "enemies" become friends after a heavy discussion and the
>reevaluation of your own point of views.
>
>
>Thanks.



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