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Subject: Re: White improves with 36.Bxe5! Bxe5!! 0 - 1 ;)

Author: Gian-Carlo Pascutto

Date: 05:12:38 09/11/01

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On September 10, 2001 at 21:24:01, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>In general, perhaps what we're seeing is that some chess programs are assessing
>these ending rather optimistically.  If a human thinks they've got serious
>drawing chances, they'd never assign a score of +2.  +2 should indicate a
>decisive advantage.  DJ6 has been giving +1 to some (but not all) of these
>endings that I've been coming up with, but my comments like "and White should be
>able to grovel a draw" are based upon my own, weak expert assessment.

I considered this too. It should be obvious that black has a good advantage in
all these lines, so certainly a good score is warranted in addition to the
pluspawn. That doesn't have to mean it forcedly wins. I know it isn't much to go
on, but if I let a pair of programs dug it out from most of these lines black
wins without too much trouble.

>I haven't been able to check every line (who can?) but I am coming around to the
>view that DT2 was able to find +2 back at ...c5.  I do also think that the score
>is not completely deserved (e.g. that crafty and DT2 are overassessing Black's
>advantage in some of the endgames).  And it's clear that no, DT2 isn't winning a
>piece.  So everybody has something to be happy about. :-)

True. I'd like to see anyone produce c5 even with a -1 score in 7 seconds
though.

--
GCP



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