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Subject: Re: registered ddr ram

Author: Robin Smith

Date: 23:05:10 09/14/01

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On September 14, 2001 at 10:24:40, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 13, 2001 at 20:57:45, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On September 13, 2001 at 13:04:38, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>>
>>>On September 13, 2001 at 12:39:15, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 13, 2001 at 10:46:18, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On September 13, 2001 at 10:12:22, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>registered DDR ram is more than double the price you mentionned here.
>>>>>>and needs very long to get delivered.
>>>>>
>>>>>Before posting this crap, check your prices.  It's hardly more expensive for the
>>>>>Registered DDR memory than the normal memory, as others have already mentioned.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.alternate.nl/cgi-bin/frameset.pm?js=1
>>>>
>>>>DDR ram, registered  1 gigabyte: 702 euro, euro is not far away from dollar
>>>>right now. 92 dollar cents or similar.
>>>>
>>>>How to get that for $200 ?
>>>>
>>>>Oh perhaps you think alternate is the most expensive shop in netherlands
>>>>(not exactly true it's one of the cheapest).
>>>>
>>>>Let's try another real cheap store in netherlands, who are even slower
>>>>delivering registered DDR ram actually as they initially promised:
>>>>
>>>>Let's also try smaller DIMMS as that's cheaper:
>>>>
>>>>Corsair DDR 256MB PC 2100 Cas 2,5 Reg dutch guilder 359 euro 163
>>>>
>>>>you need 4 of them. 4x163 =  652 euro.
>>>>
>>>>Who needs to shut up here?
>>>
>>>PQI DDR 256MB PC 2100 costs 429kr which is equvalent to 50$, i don't think that
>>>anyone is questioning the prices you post that is current in the netherlands,
>>>but that does not mean that it is not cheaper elsewhere.
>>
>>Wait a minute. i bet you're not talking about REGISTERED memory but
>>talking about normal DDR ram.
>>
>>That doesn't boot in a tyan motherboard!
>>
>>You need REGISTERED memory!
>>
>>normal DDR ram is NOT registered.
>>
>
>
>Registered simply means certified.  Most commonly this has to do with two
>things:  speed and contact material.  IE if your MB has gold contacts in the
>memory sockets, you need gold contacts on the memory modules.  Mixing gold and
>tin/whatever won't work very long.  Speed is the other issue.  I have seen
>lots of 60ns SDRAM that won't work at speeds faster than 75ns, for example.
>As verified on a memory tester.  "registered DDR ram" simply means it has been
>confirmed to work in a particular MB.  The inverse is _not_ true.  IE that
>non-registered DDR ram will _not_ work in that MB.  It might or might not work.

Bob, are you sure?

From http://www.crucial.com/support/faq.asp  (a memory supplier):

"What is 'registered SDRAM'?
Registered SDRAM is the SDRAM version of a buffered module. All memory must be
buffered; it is just a question of where the buffering takes place. Buffer logic
chips clean up the signals on a DRAM module. They don't boost the signal, they
just provide a small buffer or cache where data can be held for 1 clock cycle
prior to being written to the DRAM cells. This buffering only takes place on
writes simply because a buffer is not needed when the memory is being read as
the chipset can handle it as fast as it can get it. The term "registered"
reflects the use of a register logic chip rather than a buffer logic chip, and
the registered part is used because a regular buffer logic chip can't keep up
with the speed of 100MHz SDRAM."

Robin



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