Author: Slater Wold
Date: 23:37:41 09/14/01
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On September 14, 2001 at 05:17:40, Janosch Zwerensky wrote: > >>Chess Tiger 14.0 - W,S >>8/k1b5/P4p2/1Pp2p1p/K1P2P1P/8/3B4/8 w - - 0 1 >> >>Analysis by Chess Tiger 14.0: >> >>1.Kb3 Bd6 2.Kc3 Bb8 3.Kd3 Bc7 4.Ke3 Bb6 5.Bc3 Bd8 6.Kd3 Kb6 >> +- (3.60) Depth: 12 00:00:00 212kN >>1.Kb3 Bd6 2.Kc3 Bb8 3.Kd3 Bc7 4.Ke3 Bb6 5.Bc3 Bd8 6.Bb2 Kb6 7.Ba1 >> +- (3.60) Depth: 13 00:00:00 261kN >>1.Kb3 Bd6 2.Kc3 Bb8 3.Kd3 Bc7 4.Ke3 Bb6 5.Bc3 Bd8 6.Kd3 Be7 7.Ba5 Bd6 >> +- (3.64) Depth: 14 00:00:01 538kN >>1.Kb3 Bd6 2.Kc3 Bb8 3.Kd3 Bc7 4.Ke3 Bb6 5.Bc3 Bd8 6.Kf3 Ka8 7.Bd2 Ka7 >> +- (3.62) Depth: 15 00:00:03 1910kN >>1.Be3 Bb6 2.Bc1 Kb8 3.Bb2 Bd8 4.Bc3 Ka7 5.Ba5 Bb6 6.Bxb6+ Kxb6 7.Kb3 Ka7 8.Kc3 >>Kb6 9.Kd3 >> +- (3.94) Depth: 15 00:00:04 2316kN >>1.Be3 Bb6 2.Bc1 Bc7 3.Ba3 Bb6 4.Kb3 Kb8 5.Kc3 Ka8 6.Kd3 Kb8 7.Ke3 Ka7 8.Bb2 Bd8 >> +- (3.80) Depth: 16 00:00:06 3202kN >>1.Be3 Bb6 2.Bf2 Kb8 3.Be1 Ka8 4.Bc3 Bc7 5.Bxf6 Ka7 6.Be7 Bb6 7.Kb3 Kb8 8.Kc3 Ka8 >>9.Kd2 >> +- (4.26) Depth: 17 00:00:15 8305kN >>1.Be3 >> +- (5.16) Depth: 18 00:00:23 12408kN, tb=3 >>1.Be3 >> +- (5.16) Depth: 19 00:00:37 19326kN, tb=8 >>1.Be3 >> +- (6.06) Depth: 19 00:00:44 22979kN, tb=9 >>1.Be3 >> +- (6.06) Depth: 19 00:00:53 27904kN, tb=9 >> >>(W, 13.08.2001) >> >>*Look at that eval!!!* > >That's strange. I always thought GambitTiger and ChessTiger aren't supposed to >give different analysis in endgames, but here apparently they do: > >8/k1b5/P4p2/1Pp2p1p/K1P2P1P/8/3B4/8 w - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Gambit Tiger 2.0: > >1.Le3 Lb6 2.Lf2 Kb8 3.Le1 Lc7 4.La5 Lxf4 5.b6 Le3 6.a7+ Kb7 > +- (2.66) Tiefe: 11 00:00:00 57kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Kb8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Ld4 Ld2 6.Kb5 Kc7 7.Lxf6 Lxf4 > +- (2.98) Tiefe: 11 00:00:00 77kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Kb8 4.Kxc5 Ka8 5.Kb5 Ld6 6.c5 Lc7 7.c6 > +- (2.98) Tiefe: 12 00:00:00 112kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Kb8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Ld4 Ld2 6.Kb5 Lxf4 7.Lxf6 > +- (2.94) Tiefe: 13 00:00:01 228kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Kb8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Ld4 Ld2 6.Kb5 Lxf4 7.Lxf6 Lc7 8.c5 > +- (2.94) Tiefe: 14 00:00:03 539kN >1.Le3 Lb6 2.Lf2 Kb8 3.Le1 Lc7 4.La5 Lxf4 5.b6 Lg3 6.Kb5 Lxh4 7.b7 Lg3 8.Kxc5 > +- (3.10) Tiefe: 14 00:00:04 620kN >1.Le3 Lb6 2.Lf2 Kb8 3.Le1 Lc7 4.La5 Lxf4 5.b6 Lg3 6.Kb5 Lxh4 7.Kxc5 f4 8.a7+ Kb7 > +- (3.25) Tiefe: 15 00:00:07 1131kN >1.Le3 Lb6 2.Lf2 Kb8 3.Le1 Lc7 4.La5 Lxf4 5.b6 Lg3 6.Kb5 f4 7.b7 f3 8.Kc6 Ka7 >9.Lc7 Lxc7 10.Kxc7 > +- (3.26) Tiefe: 16 00:00:15 2211kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Ka8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Kd6 Le1 6.Kd7 La5 7.Ke6 Lc3 8.Kxf5 >Kb8 9.a7+ > +- (3.92) Tiefe: 16 00:00:16 2314kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Ka8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Kd6 Le1 6.Kd7 La5 7.Ke6 Kb8 8.Kxf5 >Le1 9.a7+ Kb7 10.Kxf6 > +- (4.30) Tiefe: 17 00:00:25 3742kN >1.b6+ > +- (5.20) Tiefe: 18 00:00:44 6488kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Ka8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Kd6 Kb8 6.Ke6 Ld8 7.Kxf5 Ka8 8.Kg6 >Kb8 9.Kxh5 La5 10.a7+ > +- (5.36) Tiefe: 18 00:00:47 6992kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 > +- (5.36) Tiefe: 19 00:01:41 14182kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Ka8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Kd6 Kb8 6.Ke6 Ka8 7.Kxf6 Ld8+ 8.Kxf5 >Lxh4 9.Kg6 Le1 > +- (5.44) Tiefe: 20 00:02:19 19669kN > >But then I also get analysis different from yours if I'm using ChessTiger: > >8/k1b5/P4p2/1Pp2p1p/K1P2P1P/8/3B4/8 w - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Chess Tiger 14.0: > >1.Le3 Lb6 2.Lf2 Kb8 3.Le1 Lc7 4.La5 Lxf4 5.b6 Le3 6.a7+ Kb7 > +- (2.66) Tiefe: 11 00:00:00 64kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Kb8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Ld4 Ld2 6.Kb5 Kc7 7.Lxf6 Lxf4 > +- (2.98) Tiefe: 11 00:00:00 77kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Kb8 4.Kxc5 Ka8 5.Kb5 Ld6 6.c5 Lc7 7.c6 > +- (2.98) Tiefe: 12 00:00:00 112kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Kb8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Ld4 Ld2 6.Kb5 Lxf4 7.Lxf6 > +- (2.94) Tiefe: 13 00:00:01 228kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Kb8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Ld4 Ld2 6.Kb5 Lxf4 7.Lxf6 Lc7 8.c5 > +- (2.94) Tiefe: 14 00:00:03 539kN >1.Le3 Lb6 2.Lf2 Kb8 3.Le1 Lc7 4.La5 Lxf4 5.b6 Lg3 6.Kb5 Lxh4 7.b7 Lg3 8.Kxc5 > +- (3.10) Tiefe: 14 00:00:04 620kN >1.Le3 Lb6 2.Lf2 Kb8 3.Le1 Lc7 4.La5 Lxf4 5.b6 Lg3 6.Kb5 Lxh4 7.Kxc5 f4 8.a7+ Kb7 > +- (3.25) Tiefe: 15 00:00:07 1131kN >1.Le3 Lb6 2.Lf2 Kb8 3.Le1 Lc7 4.La5 Lxf4 5.b6 Lg3 6.Kb5 f4 7.b7 f3 8.Kc6 Ka7 >9.Lc7 Lxc7 10.Kxc7 > +- (3.26) Tiefe: 16 00:00:15 2211kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Ka8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Kd6 Le1 6.Kd7 La5 7.Ke6 Lc3 8.Kxf5 >Kb8 9.a7+ > +- (3.92) Tiefe: 16 00:00:16 2314kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Ka8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Kd6 Le1 6.Kd7 La5 7.Ke6 Kb8 8.Kxf5 >Le1 9.a7+ Kb7 10.Kxf6 > +- (4.30) Tiefe: 17 00:00:25 3742kN >1.b6+ > +- (5.20) Tiefe: 18 00:00:45 6488kN >1.b6+ Lxb6 2.Kb5 Lc7 3.Le3 Ka8 4.Kxc5 La5 5.Kd6 Kb8 6.Ke6 Ld8 7.Kxf5 Ka8 8.Kg6 >Kb8 9.Kxh5 La5 10.a7+ > +- (5.36) Tiefe: 18 00:00:49 6992kN > >I'd suspect the differences between mine and your analysis are down to different >hashtable size settings or something like that.... > >Regards, >Janosch. > > >Regards, >Janosch. Hashtables. Speed. And tablebases. Slate
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