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Subject: Re: Chess over LAN revisited - APHID

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 14:27:10 09/17/01

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On September 17, 2001 at 14:28:58, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On September 17, 2001 at 11:43:14, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On September 17, 2001 at 11:18:43, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On September 17, 2001 at 06:47:39, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On September 17, 2001 at 05:07:55, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>The problems are huge. I do not know who wrote the 6-7
>>>>crap. Crafty AFAIK never was running over a network properly.
>>>>
>>>>Bob can answer this better of course, but it's complete nonsense
>>>>that you get 6.0 - 7.0 out of 16 processors at a 100mbit network.
>>>
>>>I don't agree.  They _did_ it.  Schaeffer _did_ it.  Others have done
>>>it also...
>>
>>If in worldwar I the biplanes were THE way to do dogfight, it doesn't
>>mean that for nowadays supersonic fighters (i would nearly write down scram
>>fighters) the way to go is biplane.
>>
>>That's a very good compare with the experiments from Schaeffer with
>>todays computerchess techniques used.
>>
>
>Poor analogy.  Jets existed in WWII.  None in WWI.  But notice that _all_
>planes have used wings (airfoils).  And you will also notice that supersonic
>is not the best way for all forms of air combat, particularly air to ground.
>Just look at the Army's "warthog".

But i plan to only drop h-bombs, so in that case the faster a figher is,
the better!

>
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Most likely the speedup is for a crafty version with more extensions
>>>>WITH shared memory. speedup is in general worse when the searchspace
>>>>you search is not overlapping for each processor.
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>I missed most of the relevant thread but after quickly
>>>>>scanning through some posts I wonder why nobody has
>>>>>brought up APHID.
>>>>>
>>>>>The reported speedups for Crafty (version 12.something)
>>>>>with 16 processors are 6-7 without shared memory, and 9
>>>>>with shared memory.
>>>>>
>>>>>Aditionally. the library itself as well as a 'distributed'
>>>>>Crafty that uses it are already available *now*. It shouldn't
>>>>>be too hard to adapt the very latest Crafties to it either.
>>>>>
>>>>>Whats the general opnion about it? Nobody experimented
>>>>>with this Crafty?
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>GCP



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