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Subject: Re: APHID , advances in ICCA #8

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 08:54:45 09/18/01

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On September 18, 2001 at 11:07:27, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On September 18, 2001 at 09:10:02, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>Well if no one here manages to do that, who am i to say that the
>>remainder of this algorithm is worth trying?
>
>Perhaps just noone bothered?
>
>>Which means that APHID already says who has to search what before relevance
>>of parallel splitting has been indicated. Considering that nowadays we
>>use nullmove bigtime, this makes APHID completely outdated, because
>>it in short doesn't wait at all!
>
>They Crafty they used had nullmove R=2. Nowadays most people (I know
>you don't, but you aren't everybody even if you continously think so)
>use R=2/R=3. I'm pretty sure that isn't going to make the difference
>between usefull and useless.

All testresults they published are based upon 5 to 8 ply searches
and based upon a program called TheTurk. No mention of crafty speedups,
and if they are then it's still 5 to 8 ply.

Who cares for 5 to 8 ply speedups in the year 2001?

My speedup is horrible at 7 ply, no kidding, but look how my speedup is
at bigger depths!

I don't want to crack down results from the APHID team back in 1996,
but we must clearly realize that what worked back then is NOT going to
work in 2001 anymore!

>>This refers to the fact that YBW for each node needs a result for the
>>first move first before splitting other moves. Now this is of course very
>>true, but this directly also shows that APHIDs branching factor is by
>>definition bigger than algorithms which use YBW.
>
>I don't think they make any claims that their branching factor is better
>than YBW. Would seem pretty silly to me. But then again, YBW probably
>gets killed in different ways when having to deal with slow interprocess
>comms on a cluster.
>
>--
>GCP



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