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Subject: Re: Three hard positions

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 13:46:33 09/18/01

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On September 18, 2001 at 16:42:29, Steffen Jakob wrote:

>On September 18, 2001 at 13:44:33, Janosch Zwerensky wrote:
>
>>Hi everyone,
>>
>>I don't expect that currently any program can solve one of these problems given
>>less than weeks of reflection time, but I'd like to know anyway what different
>>progs say:
>>
>>[D] 8/8/8/5Bp1/7k/7P/4pPK1/8 b - - 0 1
>>
>>Here, 1. ... g4 is the only way for black to win, since everything else (except
>>for 1. ... e1N, which obviously doesn't win) leaves white with the possibility
>>of responding with 2.Bg4! which permanently locks up black's king and thus
>>secures the draw.
>>Does any program find 1. ... g4! within a reasonable amount of time?
>
>Hossa 1.135 with very experimental blocked position detection enabled:
>
> depth   value    time    nodes pv
>    1    +7.33    0.01        2 1... e2e1Q
>   <1>   +7.33    0.01       15 1... e2e1Q
>?   2    +6.74    0.01       92 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g6
>?  <2>   +6.74    0.02      140 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g6
>    3    +6.74    0.02      157 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g6
>   <3>   +6.74    0.02      226 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g6
>    4    +6.78    0.03      305 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g6 e1d1
>   <4>   +6.78    0.03      422 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g6 e1d1
>    5    +6.81    0.04      792 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1e4 3.g4f3
>   <5>   +6.81    0.04     1038 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1e4 3.g4f3
>    6    +6.89    0.05     1226 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1e4 3.g4f3 e4e1
>   <6>   +6.89    0.06     1624 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1e4 3.g4f3 e4e1
>    7    +6.89    0.09     2449 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1e4 3.g4f3 e4e1
>   <7>   +6.89    0.11     2999 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1e4 3.g4f3 e4e1
>?   8    +0.43    0.15     5554 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1e4 3.Kh2 e4xg4
>                                4.h3xg4 Kxg4
>? 4/8    +1.27    0.34    17308 1... e2e1R 2.f5g4 e1b1 3.g4f5 b1b3
>                                4.f5g4 b3d3
>? 5/8    +4.74    0.63    33456 1... g4 2.f5xg4 e2e1Q 3.Kf3 Kg5
>                                4.g4d7
>?  <8>   +4.74    0.63    33480 1... g4 2.f5xg4 e2e1Q 3.Kf3 Kg5
>                                4.g4d7
>    9    +4.87    0.75    40259 1... g4 2.h3xg4 e2e1Q 3.f5d3 e1d1
>                                4.d3f5 d1e2
>!   9    +6.32    0.81    44280 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1c1 3.g4e2 c1c8
>                                4.e2g4
>!  <9>   +6.32    0.82    44879 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1c1 3.g4e2 c1c8
>                                4.e2g4
>?  10    +4.99    1.10    61290 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1c1 3.g4f3 g4
>                                4.h3xg4 c1e1
>? <10>   +4.99    1.21    71654 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1c1 3.g4f3 g4
>                                4.h3xg4 c1e1
> 4/11    +4.70    2.03   122843 1... g4 2.h3xg4 e2e1Q 3.g5 e1e5
>                                4.f5h3 e5e4 5.f3
>  <11>   +4.70    2.08   127847 1... g4 2.h3xg4 e2e1Q 3.g5 e1e5
>                                4.f5h3 e5e4 5.f3
>   12    +4.97    2.78   171388 1... g4 2.h3xg4 e2e1Q 3.Kf3 Kg5
>                                4.Kg3 Kf6 5.Kf4 e1d2 6.Kf3
>  <12>   +4.97    3.51   233598 1... g4 2.h3xg4 e2e1Q 3.Kf3 Kg5
>                                4.Kg3 Kf6 5.Kf4 e1d2 6.Kf3
>   13    +4.82    4.47   295652 1... g4 2.f5xg4 e2e1Q 3.g4f3 e1e6
>                                4.f3g4 e6d5 5.g4f3 d5d2 6.f3e4
> 3/13    +4.87    6.73   469716 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1c1 3.g4e2 g4
>                                4.h3xg4 c1b2 5.Kf3 Kg5
>  <13>   +4.87    6.93   487909 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1c1 3.g4e2 g4
>                                4.h3xg4 c1b2 5.Kf3 Kg5
>   14    +4.79    7.46   523508 1... e2e1Q 2.f5g4 e1c1 3.g4e2 g4
>                                4.h3xg4 c1e1 5.Kf3 Kg5 6.e2b5
> 2/14    +4.86   10.96   753968 1... g4 2.f5xg4 e2e1Q 3.g4f3 e1d2
>                                4.f3c6 d2g5 5.Kh2 g5f4 6.Kg2 Kg5
>  <14>   +4.86   14.39  1052985 1... g4 2.f5xg4 e2e1Q 3.g4f3 e1d2
>                                4.f3c6 d2g5 5.Kh2 g5f4 6.Kg2 Kg5
>   15    +4.97   18.38  1331167 1... g4 2.h3xg4 e2e1Q 3.Kf3 Kg5
>                                4.Kg3 Kf6 5.Kf3 e1d1 6.Kf4 d1d2
>  <15>   +4.97   27.13  2091872 1... g4 2.h3xg4 e2e1Q 3.Kf3 Kg5
>                                4.Kg3 Kf6 5.Kf3 e1d1 6.Kf4 d1d2
>   16    +4.96   38.43  2878557 1... g4 2.f5xg4 e2e1Q 3.g4f3 Kg5
>                                4.f3b7 Kf4 5.h4 e1e7 6.b7d5 e7e1
>  <16>   +4.96    1:12  5770815 1... g4 2.f5xg4 e2e1Q 3.g4f3 Kg5
>                                4.f3b7 Kf4 5.h4 e1e7 6.b7d5 e7e1

Incredible result!
How about WAC.230?




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