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Subject: Re: OT:Can chess.net and other ICS's be accessed by other ports than 5000?

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:54:36 09/20/01

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On September 20, 2001 at 02:19:21, Slater Wold wrote:

>On September 19, 2001 at 22:11:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 19, 2001 at 16:51:36, Slater Wold wrote:
>>
>>>On September 19, 2001 at 16:20:02, derrick gatewood wrote:
>>>
>>>>Also telnet...  I do not like telnet as it is unfriendly in all terms and
>>>>playing chess through telnet is impossible.  My stupid administrators closed
>>>>port 5000 down due to Code Red virus.  so is it possible to access chess.net
>>>>through port 4000, for instance?  Also, doesn't applying the patch from
>>>>microsoft totally protect you from the present form of thew code red virus?  so
>>>>closing port 5000 is stupid in his case,  right?  Regardless,  I just want to
>>>>play my chess  =)  I am a dang addict.
>>>
>>>You can access it through any open port.
>>>
>>>I connect to ICC using port 5003.
>>>
>>>You have 65,000+ ports, surely you can find one to use.
>>>
>>>
>>>Slate
>>
>>
>>It doesn't work like that.  ICC has to be listening on a port before you can
>>connect to it.  the first 1024 ports are reserved for things like ftp, telnet,
>>http, snmp, etc.  You have to find out what ports are being listened to on the
>>server end, and then connect to that.  ICC started listening on 5000 and up
>>(not everything above 5000 but a few) a couple of years ago when they were
>>subjected to a DOS attack for several days on port 5000.
>
>That's why I said "open" ports, taking for granted he more than likely knew that
>say for instance, 23 is reserved for FTP.
>
>I guarantee they have at least 2,500 open ports, and you're correct, all over
>5000.
>
>I don't think ICC would appreciate a port scan however.  Especially after
>hearing they have had a denial of service attack before.  :)
>
>
>Slate


I'm not sure they have that many.  They used to do 5000-5050.  But once you
run into 6000 and above you start running into ports that are dedicated and
well-known for offering other services like remote-X and dozens of other
things.  Just because you find an active port on a remote machine, doesn't
mean it will accept a telnet connection and talk to you using the telnet
protocol.  It could be any of a thousand other services that also use ports
above 1023...

IE 5002 is "radio free ethernet"
5308 is "cfengine"
5999 is "cvsup file transfer"
6000 is "X11"
7000-7009 are all registered already.

11720 is h.323 conferencing stuff.

Etc...



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