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Subject: Re: Kingsafety testset requested

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 19:38:27 09/22/01

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On September 22, 2001 at 18:31:43, Thomas Mayer wrote:

>Hi Vincent,
>
>>>[Event "1st Intl. CSVN Trn."]
>>>[Site "Leiden NED"]
>>>[Date "2001.05.20"]
>>>[Round "07"]
>>>[White "Tao"]
>>>[Black "Quark"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 e5 2. Bc4 Nf6 3. f4 Nxe4 4. Nc3 Nd6 5. Bb3 exf4 6. Nf3 Be7 7. Ne5
>>>Bh4+ 8. g3 fxg3 9. O-O gxh2+ 10. Kh1 O-O 11. Qh5 Bf6 12. d4 b6 13. Kxh2 Ba6
>>>14. Rf3 Bxe5+ 15. dxe5 g6 16. Qh6 Qe7 17. exd6 Qxd6+ 18. Bf4 Qd4 19. Ne4
>>>Bf1 20. Raxf1
>>>1-0
>>>
>>>
>>>Quark fall in a booktrap here... last bookmove of Tao was 12. d4 (Quark was
>>>after 3. f4 out of book)
>
>>>position after 12. d4
>>>[D]rnbq1rk1/pppp1ppp/3n1b2/4N2Q/3P4/1BN5/PPP4p/R1B2R1K b - d3 0 12
>
>>Well too late already for book traps here IMHO everything loses here.
>>Is this a position where there is a best move for black anyway?
>
>no, not for black - the test is like this: take Yace as black and for white an
>engine of your choice... then let them play with different time controls... you
>will see that for many engines this is not as easy as it looks ! As I have said,
>crafty has failed as white, Shredder has failed as white and several other
>engines... I believe that Diep will handle it well... but many engines don't -
>e.g. my quark is still not doing a very clever job here... but with longer time
>controls it wins...
>
>So that's why I offer this position here - as I always say - it is not only
>important to have a good position, the engine must win it... I think now I have
>my quark at a point where it's king safety is good enough to see that black is
>under attack not white... (Quarks king safety has now nothing static anymore in
>it... that helps a lot...)
>
>>Not only to do with position i think , especially tactics here.
>
>hm, I don't think that crafty is bad in tactics... but anyway it fails here...

I believe that crafty is weak at tactics relative to part of the other programs
when mate ideas are relevant.

Uri



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