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Subject: Re: chess computer ratings

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 07:47:02 09/23/01

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On September 23, 2001 at 10:30:43, Sonja Tiede wrote:

>On September 23, 2001 at 10:21:44, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On September 23, 2001 at 09:04:34, gregory j capace wrote:
>>
>>>If you have a faster processor, how much strength does this dd to the program ?
>>>Does Fritz 6 run any stronger on my 566 mghz, versus a 450 nghz. , like the
>>>rating says. How strong would it be on a 1.2 mghz. computer ?
>>
>>
>>Against humans, there is no real data.  If you are talking about taking a
>>program on an XXX megahertz machine, and playing it against a program on
>>a 2*XXX megahertz machine, then the faster machine will be rated about 60
>>points higher, using the typical Elo formula.  I don't think that +60 will
>>be true for games vs humans, however.  It might be 1/2 of that or even less.
>
>
>Take 2 programs, one with 2000 SSDF ELo and one with 2600 SSDF Elo,
>assume the 2000 value is true against humans.
>Do you really think the other programm has a human-strength of less than 2300 ,
>since all SSDF elo-values are based on comp-comp matches ?

This is not what hyatt said.

Hyatt talked about the same program and Hyatt also did not talk about law levels
of 2000.
I believe that Hyatt may be right that the +60 is translated to +30 or less than
it only if the humans learn the machine and try to play anti computer chess.

Practically it almost never happens in tournament and the proof is the fact that
I remember nobody who tried to play the trojan horse sacrifice against machines
when they played against humans in tournaments.

nemeth did it in games that he posted and humans could also do it some years ago
against old hardware.

I suspect that if humans learn to play against machines seriously the programs
with ssdf rating of 2000 may get less than 1600.

Uri



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