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Subject: Re: Cleaned ECM aka WACII revisited

Author: Miguel A. Ballicora

Date: 08:28:19 09/23/01

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On September 23, 2001 at 08:54:02, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:

>On September 23, 2001 at 05:29:51, Peter Berger wrote:
>
>>
>>[D]2b3k1/p4ppp/7q/2Q5/8/P3r1P1/1r4BP/R3R1K1 b - - bm Bb7; id "ECM.1197";
>>
>>This one looks wrong.
>
>Nope...Bb7 is the fastest mate.

I see that both (Rxg2 and Bb7) ends up in checkmate or huge advantage. I do not
think it is a good idea to have this kind of test. Once a program finds a mate
it might stick to it. That does not change at all the strength of a program. In
other words, this position does not test any improvement in stregth IMHO.
I would take it out.

>>[D]2r1r1k1/pp1nbpp1/4pn1p/q3NN1P/P1pP1B2/2P5/1PQ2PP1/R3R1K1 w - - bm Nxg7; id
>>"ECM.1227";
>>
>>I think Bringer's solution here is even prettier than the original one ;-)
>>
>>0:00:44.1  (13/40)   12455642   0.00  1.Nxd7 Nxd7 2.Rxe6
>>
>>Both lead to a forced draw as far as I can see - or is there some hidden win
>>after Nxg7 ?

White must win here! not a draw!
I am 99% sure that this position is Gaprindashvili - Nikolac. I studied this
game when I was very active and studying chess a lot. I got to be early 80's
or late 70's. I do not have here my collection of informants, otherwise I will
find it because it was in one of those. It was a caro-kann. I might be wrong
but the position was burned in my retina. White won destroying the king
side with Nxg7 and Bxh6+. It looks devastating.
I will try to look at it.
Maybe somebody can find this game? That'll be easier.

>There seems to be yes.
>
>>[D]rnb2rk1/pp2bppp/2p5/q7/4NN2/4B1QP/PPP3P1/2KR3R w - - bm Rd5; id "ECM.1259";
>>
>>This one looks wrong but this has been discussed before.
>
>Nd5 is correct, Rd5 is not.
>
>>[D]r1b2r1k/ppppq1pp/2n1n3/6N1/2B2P2/4B3/PPP3PP/R2Q1RK1 w - - bm Nxh7; id
>>"ECM.1612";
>>
>>I don't really understand this position. 1.Nxh7 Kxh7 2.Qh5+ Kg8 3.f5 Ne5 4.Bb3
>>Qe8 5. Qh4 probably ?

Why Bb3?
4.fxe6! I think is a good move!.
4.fxe6 Nxc4 5.Rxf8 Qxf8 6.Rf1 Qe7 7.Qf7+ Qxf7 8.exf7 Kf8 9.Bd4 and white is won
next move is Bxg7+ with a short mate soon.
sounds like a crushing PV.


>>Nice position. 1.Bxe6 dxe6 2.Qd3 g6 3.Rad1 - nice position,too. 1.Qh5 g6 2.Qh6
>>Qg7 3.Qxg7+ etc as Crafty suggested - not bad either.
>>Is there some original analysis availlable explaining it?
>
>I eliminated this one. White seems to have multiple good moves.

I would not eliminate this one (at least not yet). The PV I gave above sounds
too good. A quick check with Gaviota, starting from the position after fxe6
seems to confirm it.

Regards,
Miguel


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>GCP



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