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Subject: Re: Looking for some information and positions

Author: Bernhard Bauer

Date: 06:50:07 09/24/01

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On September 24, 2001 at 05:48:50, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 24, 2001 at 05:14:10, Jari Huikari wrote:
>
>>I'd like to find information about history of computer chess:
>>When alpha-beta was invented and other 'milestones'.
>>
>>And if I remember right I have seen here an estimation about
>>how many different chess positions there are.
>>
>>And finally I'd like to get those strange positions where Fritz
>>couldn't find easy mates: another was a zugzwang and mate wasn't
>>found because of using null move
>
>I remember this position when old versions of Fritz could not solve but
>unfortunately Deep Fritz can solve it.
>
>[D]kbK5/pp6/1P6/8/8/8/8/R7 w - - 0 1
>
>Deep Fritz seems to be lucky here because I remember cases when it could not see
>simple things because of null moves including a case when it fail to see
>a simple win against Junior in comp-comp game because of null move pruning.
>(Junior saw something like 10 pawns against itself when Deep Fritz saw nothing
>and after Deep Fritz's mistake it was almost equality)
>
>The comp-comp game was based on my correspondence game against the female world
>champion luba kristol.
>
>Unfortunately I am too lazy to look for this comp-comp game now.
>I remember that Deep Fritz found the right move at short depthes in that game
>but later it failed low every iteration without main line until Deep Fritz saw
>another move.
>
>I already posted few years ago a position when the right move leads to a
>zunzwang and Fritz5(at that time) found the right move but also failed low every
>iteration without solving the fail low.
>
>It seems that chessbase does not consider that problem as important and I do not
>believe that Deep Fritz is losing more than 5 elo in rating because of that
>problem.
>
>Uri

Now DeepFritz even solves some studies involving zugzwang like

[D]2q5/8/6p1/B6p/7k/7P/R5PK/8 w - -

and

[D]8/6p1/1p6/p7/kq2Q3/8/K7/8 w - -

You may try both positions with crafty :)
Kind regards
Bernhard



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