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Subject: Re: ECM.1617

Author: Michel Langeveld

Date: 10:03:34 09/24/01

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On September 24, 2001 at 06:26:00, Uri Blass wrote:

>On September 24, 2001 at 06:02:20, Ed Schröder wrote:
>
>>On September 24, 2001 at 01:49:35, Michel Langeveld wrote:
>>
>>>another solution found?
>>>
>>>======================================================================
>>>! ECM.1617 !
>>>======================================================================
>>>
>>>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>    8  | *R| *N|   |   |   | *R| *K|   |
>>>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>    7  | *P| *P|   | *B| *P| *P| *B| *P|
>>>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>    6  |   | *Q| *P|   |   |   | *P|   |
>>>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>    5  |   |   |   |   | P |   | N |   |
>>>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>    4  | P | P |   | P | B |   |   |   |
>>>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>    3  |   |   | P |   | B |   |   |   |
>>>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>    2  |   |   |   |   | Q |   | P | P |
>>>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>    1  | R |   |   |   |   | R | K |   |
>>>       +---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+
>>>         a   b   c   d   e   f   g   h
>>>
>>>solution 1. Nxh7
>>>              time surplus   0.00  time limit 20:00 (20:00)
>>>         nss  depth   time  score   variation (1)
>>>                6->   0.62   1.04   1. Qa2 e6 2. Qf2 f5 3. exf6 Rxf6
>>>                7     0.76   0.87   1. Qa2 e6 2. Qf2 Qc7 3. Bf4 h6 4. Nf3
>>>                7     1.74   0.88   1. Qf2 a5 2. Nxf7 axb4 3. cxb4 Qxb4
>>>                                    4. Bg5
>>>                7     2.22   1.00   1. Rf2 h6 2. Nf3 a5 3. Qd2 axb4 4.
>>>                                    cxb4
>>>                7->   3.19   1.00   1. Rf2 h6 2. Nf3 a5 3. Qd2 axb4 4.
>>>                                    cxb4
>>>                8     3.64   0.84   1. Rf2 h6 2. Nf3 a5 3. Qd2 axb4 4.
>>>                                    cxb4 e6
>>>                8     6.26   0.93   1. Qf2 Qd8 2. b5 Qe8 3. bxc6 Nxc6 4.
>>>                                    a5 e6
>>>                8    10.04   1.04   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qg4 Qd8
>>>                                    4. Qxe6+ Kh8 5. Bf4
>>>                8->  10.63   1.04   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qg4 Qd8
>>>                                    4. Qxe6+ Kh8 5. Bf4
>>>                9    11.44   1.24   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qg4 Rxf1+
>>>                                    4. Rxf1 Kh8 5. Qxe6 Qc7
>>>                9->  14.23   1.24   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qg4 Rxf1+
>>>                                    4. Rxf1 Kh8 5. Qxe6 Qc7
>>>               10    16.46   1.30   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qc4 Kh8
>>>                                    4. Rxf8+ Bxf8 5. Qxe6 Qd8 6. Rf1 Nd7
>>>               10->  32.85   1.30   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qc4 Kh8
>>>                                    4. Rxf8+ Bxf8 5. Qxe6 Qd8 6. Rf1 Nd7
>>>               11    36.91   1.41   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qc4 Qc7
>>>                                    4. Qxe6+ Kh8 5. Rxf8+ Bxf8 6. Rf1 Nd7
>>>                                    7. Rf7 Rd8
>>>               11->  57.03   1.41   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qc4 Qc7
>>>                                    4. Qxe6+ Kh8 5. Rxf8+ Bxf8 6. Rf1 Nd7
>>>                                    7. Rf7 Rd8
>>>               12     1:08   1.32   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qc4 Qd8
>>>                                    4. Qxe6+ Kh8 5. Rxf8+ Bxf8 6. Rf1 a5
>>>                                    7. Qf7 Nd7
>>>               12->   3:44   1.32   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qc4 Qd8
>>>                                    4. Qxe6+ Kh8 5. Rxf8+ Bxf8 6. Rf1 a5
>>>                                    7. Qf7 Nd7
>>>               13     4:16   1.54   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qc4 Qd8
>>>                                    4. Qxe6+ Kh8 5. Rxf8+ Bxf8 6. Rf1 Nd7
>>>                                    7. Rf7 Nf6 8. Qe5
>>>               13->   6:45   1.54   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qc4 Qd8
>>>                                    4. Qxe6+ Kh8 5. Rxf8+ Bxf8 6. Rf1 Nd7
>>>                                    7. Rf7 Nf6 8. Qe5
>>>               14     8:34   1.50   1. e6 Bxe6 2. Nxe6 fxe6 3. Qc4 Qd8
>>>                                    4. Qxe6+ Kh8 5. Rxf8+ Qxf8 6. Rf1 Bf6
>>>                                    7. Bg5 Kg7 8. Rf2 Qf7
>>>              time=20:01  cpu=99%  mat=0  n=517825835  fh=90%  nps=431047
>>>              ext-> chk=14494777 pp=578838 1rep=1498995 mate=120778
>>>              predicted=0  nodes=517825835  evals=117491948
>>>              endgame tablebase-> probes done=0  successful=0
>>>              hashing-> trans/ref=24%  pawn=9%  used=99%
>>>----------------------> solution incorrect (162/179).
>>
>>
>>
>>Nxh7 not found after 11 minutes and 13 plies. However Rebel's move Qf2
>>and evaluation is interesting.
>>
>>Ed

Good alternative Ed!

>>
>>-------------------------------
>>
>>00:00:23 10.00  1.78   1.e6 Bxe6 2.Nxe6 fxe6 3.Rxf8 Bxf8
>>                       4.Qg4 Qd8 5.Qxe6 Kh8 6.Rf1 Bg7 7.Bg5
>>                       Nd7 8.Bxe7  (21)
>>
>>00:00:49 10.40  1.79   1.Qe1 h6 2.d5 Qc7 3.Nxf7 Rxf7 4.Rxf7
>>                       Kxf7 5.e6 Ke8 6.exd7 Nxd7 7.dxc6
>>                       bxc6 8.Bxg6 Kd8  (44)
>>
>>00:00:58 11.00  1.70   1.Qe1 h6 2.Nxf7 Rxf7 3.Rxf7 Kxf7
>>                       4.e6 Bxe6 5.d5 c5 6.Bxc5 Qa6 7.dxe6
>>                       Qxe6 8.Bxb7  (52)
>>
>>00:01:01 11.01  1.74   1.e6 Bxe6 2.Nxe6 fxe6 3.Rxf8 Bxf8
>>                       4.Qg4 Qd8 5.Rf1 Nd7 6.Bxg6 hxg6
>>                       7.Qxg6 Kh8 8.Qh5 Kg8  (58)
>>
>>00:01:57 11.09  1.86   1.Qf2 Na6 2.e6 fxe6 3.Qh4 h6 4.Bxg6
>>                       e5 5.a5 Qb5 6.Bf7 Kh8  (91)
>>
>>00:03:58 12.00  2.37   1.Qf2 Be8 2.Qh4 h6 3.Nh3 Kh7 4.Qxe7
>>00:06:25 13.00  2.60   1.Qf2 Na6 2.e6 fxe6 3.Qh4 h6 4.Bxg6
>>                       Rf6 5.Rxf6 exf6  (306)
>
>Here is Deep Fritz's opinion:
>Deep Fritz(PIII800 64 mbytes hash) also cannot find Nxh7 after 13 plies and 11
>minutes
>It also likes Qf2
>
>Note that it is not convenient to copy positions when there is no FEN and only
>a diagram that is not based on FEN

Ok shall give them next time.

>New position
>[D]rn3rk1/pp1bppbp/1qp3p1/4P1N1/PP1PB3/2P1B3/4Q1PP/R4RK1 w - - 0 1
>
>Analysis by Deep Fritz:
>
>1.Bxg6--
>  =  (0.00)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
>1.Bxg6-- fxg6
>  -+  (-1.41)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>1.Nxh7!
>  µ  (-1.31)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>1.Nxh7! Kxh7
>  µ  (-0.75)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>1.Qf3!
>  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>1.Qf3!
>  +-  (1.44)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
>1.Qf3--
>  ±  (1.03)   Depth: 2/5   00:00:00
>1.Qf3--
>  ±  (1.03)   Depth: 2/5   00:00:00
>1.a5!
>  ±  (1.06)   Depth: 2/5   00:00:00
>1.a5! Qa6
>  +-  (1.41)   Depth: 2/13   00:00:00
>1.a5 Qa6 2.Qf3
>  +-  (1.53)   Depth: 3/18   00:00:00  1kN
>1.a5 Qd8 2.Qc4 Qe8
>  +-  (1.50)   Depth: 4/16   00:00:00  2kN
>1.Qc4!
>  +-  (1.53)   Depth: 4/23   00:00:00  7kN
>1.Qc4 e6 2.a5 Qa6 3.Qc5
>  +-  (1.69)   Depth: 5/19   00:00:00  21kN
>1.Qc4 Qa6 2.Qb3 Be8 3.Rae1 Nd7
>  +-  (1.63)   Depth: 6/20   00:00:00  44kN
>1.a5!
>  +-  (1.66)   Depth: 6/20   00:00:00  49kN
>1.a5 Qd8 2.Qc4 Qe8 3.e6 fxe6 4.Nxe6 Rf7
>  +-  (1.72)   Depth: 7/21   00:00:00  146kN
>1.a5 Qd8 2.Qf2 e6 3.Nf3 f6 4.exf6 Rxf6 5.Bg5
>  +-  (1.56)   Depth: 8/24   00:00:00  316kN
>1.e6!
>  +-  (1.59)   Depth: 8/28   00:00:02  1310kN
>1.e6! fxe6 2.Rxf8+ Bxf8 3.a5 Qc7 4.Qf3 Bg7
>  +-  (1.63)   Depth: 8/28   00:00:02  1522kN
>1.e6 Bxe6 2.Nxe6 fxe6 3.Qg4 Bf6 4.Bh6 Bxd4+ 5.cxd4 Qxd4+
>  +-  (1.78)   Depth: 9/27   00:00:03  1967kN
>1.e6 Bxe6 2.Nxe6 fxe6 3.Qg4 Rf5 4.a5 Qb5 5.Bxf5 exf5
>  +-  (1.75)   Depth: 10/29   00:00:06  3702kN
>1.e6 Bxe6 2.Nxe6 fxe6 3.Rxf8+ Kxf8 4.Rf1+ Bf6 5.Qg4 Kg7 6.a5 Qc7
>  +-  (1.81)   Depth: 11/33   00:00:28  16866kN
>1.e6 Bxe6 2.Nxe6 fxe6 3.Qg4 Rf5 4.Bxf5 exf5 5.Qe2 a5
>  +-  (1.78)   Depth: 12/35   00:01:25  51137kN
>1.a5!
>  +-  (1.81)   Depth: 12/35   00:01:41  59940kN
>1.Qf2!
>  +-  (1.84)   Depth: 12/36   00:02:39  95511kN
>1.Qf2! e6 2.d5 Qd8 3.Bc5 exd5
>  +-  (2.22)   Depth: 12/37   00:03:37  130916kN
>1.Qf2 Na6 2.Qh4 h6 3.Nf3 Kh7 4.Qxe7 Qd8 5.Qd6
>  +-  (2.25)   Depth: 13/37   00:07:25  266308kN
>
>(Blass, Tel-aviv 24.09.2001)
>
>Uri
`
Impressive and promisising score. After 1 ... Na6 and 2 ... h6 white seems to be
sure to get 5.xx. So 1 .. Qd8 (+2.53) and 2 ... Bxe6 (+3.22) seems to be slighly
better. But it seems to be an promising move. Although Nxh7 is better since it
leads forced to 5.xx.



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