Author: Miguel A. Ballicora
Date: 15:16:34 09/24/01
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On September 24, 2001 at 17:50:39, Michel Langeveld wrote: >On September 24, 2001 at 14:38:00, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On September 24, 2001 at 13:32:52, Michel Langeveld wrote: >> >>>ECM 1621 >>> >>>[D] r2q3r/2pkb1p1/p2p1n2/4p1p1/Pp2P1P1/1QP5/1P1P2PP/RNB2RK1 b - - 0 1 >>> >>>Is 1 .. Rxh2 really winning. >>> >>>I see a +2.38 after 1 .. Rxh2 2 Kxh2 ( 2 ... Qh8+ 3. Kg1 Nxg4 4 Rf7 Qh2 5 Kf1 >>>Rh8 6 cxb4 Qh1+ 7 Ke2 Qxg2+ 8 Kd3 Rh3+ 9 Kc2) >>> >>>but wat after: >>> >>>1 .. Rxh2 2 Rxf6! >>> >>>for example: >>> >>>2 ... gxf6 3 Kxh2 Qh8+ 4 Kg1 Qh4 (-0.91) >>> >>>Michel >> >> >>Mine gets Rxh2 in exactly 2 minutes. >> >>00:00:16 11.00 -0.45 1..Nxg4 2.h3 Nf6 3.d4 exd4 4.cxd4 >> g4 5.e5 dxe5 6.dxe5 Bc5 7.Be3 Bxe3 >> 8.Qxe3 (10) >> >>00:00:37 11.02 -0.41 1..Qb8 2.Qc4 >>00:01:25 12.00 -0.24 1..Qb8 2.Qc4 >>00:02:00 12.25 -0.20 1..Rxh2 2.Kxh2 Nxg4 3.Kg1 Qh8 4.Rf7 >> Qh2 5.Kf1 Rh8 6.cxb4 Qh1 7.Ke2 Qxg2 >> 8.Kd1 Ne3 9.Qxe3 Qg4 10.Ke1 Rh1 >> 11.Kf2 Qh4 12.Kg2 (94) >> >>00:03:30 13.00 -0.00 1..Rxh2 2.Rxf6 gxf6 >> >> >>After 1..Rxh2 2.Rxf6 Rebel gets 2..gxf6 with a slowly rising score. >> >>00:00:02 11.00 -0.00 2..gxf6 3.Kxh2 Qh8 4.Kg1 Qh4 5.Qd1 >> Rh8 6.Qf1 Qh2 7.Kf2 Qf4 8.Ke1 Qxf1 >> 9.Kxf1 Rh1 10.Ke2 Rxc1 11.cxb4 (2) >> >>00:00:08 12.00 -0.00 2..gxf6 3.Kxh2 Qh8 4.Kg1 Qh4 5.Qd1 >> Rh8 6.Qf1 Qh2 7.Kf2 Qf4 8.Ke1 Qxf1 >> 9.Kxf1 Rh1 10.Ke2 Rxc1 11.cxb4 (6) >> >>00:00:17 13.00 0.13 2..gxf6 3.Kxh2 Qh8 4.Kg1 Qh4 5.Qd1 >> Rh8 6.Qf1 Qh2 7.Kf2 Qf4 8.Ke1 Qxf1 >> 9.Kxf1 Rh1 10.Ke2 Rxc1 11.cxb4 Rh1 (14) >> >>00:01:04 14.00 0.54 2..gxf6 3.Kxh2 Qh8 4.Kg1 Qh4 5.Qd1 >> Rh8 6.Qf1 Qh2 7.Kf2 Qf4 8.Ke1 Qxf1 >> 9.Kxf1 Rh1 10.Ke2 Rxc1 11.cxb4 d5 >> 12.b5 axb5 (56) >> >>00:02:29 15.00 0.79 2..gxf6 3.Kxh2 Qh8 4.Kg1 Qh4 5.Qd1 >> Rh8 6.Qf1 Qh1 7.Kf2 Qxf1 8.Kxf1 >> Rh1 (84) >> >>Ed > >Rebel seems to hit with a lot of these positions the nail on its head. >It's quite amazing. Rebel seems to be understand very good these positions... > >If 2 ... gxf6 then the follow line seems to be forced. >3 Kxh2 (everythin else at leastr -+ 4.34) >3 ... Qh8 (everything else at least +- 2.25) >4 Kg1 (Kg3 = -1.72) >4 ... Qh4 (everything else at least +- 0.87) > >after this white has various opertunities... I shall look at it more closer. > > > >Michel Start the analysis from the position after 4... Qh4. It smells bad for white. Regards, Miguel
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