Author: Vincent Diepeveen
Date: 04:36:33 09/25/01
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On September 25, 2001 at 07:24:12, Uri Blass wrote: >On September 25, 2001 at 06:59:26, Tony Werten wrote: > >>On September 25, 2001 at 06:47:41, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>I find that Deep Fritz can get positional score of more than 26 pawns and Crafty >>>can get a positional score of more than 37 pawns. >> >>It means that Crafty gives about 3.5 points bonus for a passed pawn when it >>cannot be stopped by the opponent king and the opponent has no pieces anymore. > >Here is another interesting position >note that Deep Fritz see advantage for white at small depth when Crafty >understands even at depth 1 that black has decisive advantage >New position >[D]8/8/8/1K6/PPPPPPPP/1k2pppp/8/8 w - - 0 1 DIEP: 02:50 0 0 3 (0) 1 1.106 h4-h5 02:50 0 0 25 (0) 2 -1.721 h4-h5 h3-h2 02:50 0 0 93 (0) 3 -16.180 h4-h5 h3-h2 a4-a5 h2-h1Q ++ c4-c5 02:50 0 0 210 (0) 3 -16.105 c4-c5 h3-h2 c5-c6 h2-h1Q ++ a4-a5 02:50 0 0 297 (0) 3 -16.050 a4-a5 h3-h2 a5-a6 h2-h1Q 02:50 0 0 653 (0) 4 -16.050 a4-a5 h3-h2 a5-a6 h2-h1Q 02:50 0 0 2318 (0) 5 -19.067 a4-a5 e3-e2 a5-a6 e2-e1Q a6-a7 Qe1xe4 ++ c4-c5 02:50 0 0 3947 (0) 5 -17.442 c4-c5 f3-f2 c5-c6 f2-f1Q Kb5-b6 Qf1xf4 ++ d4-d5 02:50 0 0 6718 (0) 5 -17.054 d4-d5 e3-e2 d5-d6 e2-e1Q d6-d7 Qe1xb4 Kb5-c6 Qb4xc4 Kc6-d6 02:50 0 0 10260 (0) 6 -18.802 d4-d5 h3-h2 d5-d6 h2-h1Q d6-d7 Qh1xh4 02:50 0 0 21892 (0) 7 -19.697 d4-d5 e3-e2 d5-d6 e2-e1Q d6-d7 Qe1-d2 Kb5-c6 Kb3xb 4 ++ a4-a5 02:50 0 0 32737 (0) 7 -19.061 a4-a5 e3-e2 a5-a6 e2-e1Q a6-a7 Qe1-a1 Kb5-b6 Qa1xd 4 Kb6-b7 Qd4xe4 Kb7-b8 Qe4xf4 Kb8-b7 02:50 0 0 62207 (0) 8 -22.004 a4-a5 e3-e2 a5-a6 e2-e1Q a6-a7 Qe1xe4 a7-a8Q Qe4xa 8 ++ d4-d5 02:50 0 0 79749 (0) 8 -20.912 d4-d5 h3-h2 d5-d6 h2-h1Q d6-d7 Qh1-d1 d7-d8Q Qd1xd 8 02:52 0 0 264960 (0) 9 -23.034 d4-d5 e3-e2 d5-d6 e2-e1Q d6-d7 Qe1xb4 Kb5-c6 Qb4- a5 d7-d8Q Qa5xd8 ++ a4-a5 02:54 0 0 396600 (0) 9 -21.719 a4-a5 e3-e2 a5-a6 e2-e1Q a6-a7 Qe1xe4 a7-a8Q Qe4x a8 f4-f5 ++ c4-c5 02:55 0 0 492401 (0) 9 -21.621 c4-c5 f3-f2 Kb5-b6 f2-f1Q c5-c6 Qf1-c4 b4-b5 e3-e 2 d4-d5 e2-e1Q >Analysis by Deep Fritz: > >1.Kc5-- > +- (2.94) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 >1.Kc5-- > +- (2.94) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 >1.h5! > +- (3.25) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 >1.h5! > +- (6.03) Depth: 1/3 00:00:00 >1.h5-- > +- (3.59) Depth: 2/3 00:00:00 >1.h5-- h2 > +- (3.09) Depth: 2/3 00:00:00 >1.c5! > +- (5.00) Depth: 2/3 00:00:00 >1.a5! > +- (5.16) Depth: 2/3 00:00:00 >1.a5-- > +- (3.59) Depth: 3/3 00:00:00 >1.a5-- h2 2.Kc5 h1Q > -+ (-2.00) Depth: 3/5 00:00:00 >1.c5! > -+ (-1.81) Depth: 3/7 00:00:00 >1.g5! > -+ (-1.72) Depth: 3/7 00:00:00 >1.g5 e2 2.h5 e1Q > -+ (-1.72) Depth: 4/5 00:00:00 >1.g5-- > -+ (-2.03) Depth: 5/8 00:00:00 >1.g5-- e2 2.Kc5 e1Q 3.Kd5 Kxb4 > -+ (-3.87) Depth: 5/22 00:00:00 3kN >1.e5! > -+ (-3.75) Depth: 5/22 00:00:00 3kN >1.c5! > -+ (-3.69) Depth: 5/22 00:00:00 4kN >1.c5! e2 > -+ (-3.44) Depth: 5/22 00:00:00 4kN >1.c5 e2 2.d5 e1Q 3.Kc6 Kxb4 > -+ (-3.44) Depth: 6/14 00:00:00 7kN >1.c5-- > -+ (-3.75) Depth: 7/18 00:00:00 11kN >1.c5-- f2 2.c6 f1Q+ 3.Kb6 e2 4.c7 e1Q 5.c8Q > -+ (-6.44) Depth: 7/25 00:00:00 53kN >1.d5! > -+ (-6.41) Depth: 7/25 00:00:00 110kN >1.d5! e2 2.d6 e1Q 3.d7 f2 > -+ (-6.22) Depth: 7/25 00:00:00 115kN >1.d5-- > -+ (-6.53) Depth: 8/24 00:00:00 141kN >1.d5-- > -+ (-6.53) Depth: 8/24 00:00:00 144kN >1.c5! > -+ (-6.50) Depth: 8/26 00:00:00 155kN >1.c5! f2 2.c6 f1Q+ 3.Kb6 e2 4.c7 e1Q > -+ (-6.44) Depth: 8/26 00:00:00 160kN >1.c5-- > -+ (-6.75) Depth: 9/24 00:00:00 196kN >1.c5-- f2 2.c6 f1Q+ 3.Kb6 e2 4.c7 e1Q 5.b5 Qxe4 6.c8Q > -+ (-8.06) Depth: 9/30 00:00:00 274kN >1.d5! > -+ (-8.03) Depth: 9/30 00:00:00 327kN >1.d5! e2 2.d6 e1Q 3.d7 Qxb4+ 4.Kc6 Qxc4+ 5.Kd6 Qxe4 6.f5 Qd4+ > -+ (-7.06) Depth: 9/30 00:00:00 367kN >1.d5-- > -+ (-7.37) Depth: 10/28 00:00:00 495kN >1.d5-- e2 2.d6 e1Q 3.d7 f2 4.d8Q f1Q 5.Qf8 Qxc4+ 6.Kb6 Qexb4+ > -+ (-7.50) Depth: 10/31 00:00:01 550kN >1.d5-- > -+ (-7.81) Depth: 11/26 00:00:01 887kN >1.d5-- f2 2.d6 f1Q 3.d7 e2 > -+ (-10.59) Depth: 11/33 00:00:02 1698kN >1.Ka6! > -+ (-10.56) Depth: 11/33 00:00:04 2917kN >1.Kb6! > -+ (-10.53) Depth: 11/35 00:00:05 4039kN >1.Kb6! e2 2.a5 h2 3.a6 h1Q 4.a7 g2 5.a8Q g1Q > -+ (-10.34) Depth: 11/35 00:00:06 4290kN >1.a5! > -+ (-10.31) Depth: 11/35 00:00:07 5039kN >1.a5! f2 2.a6 f1Q 3.a7 Qxc4+ 4.Kb6 Qxd4+ 5.Ka6 Qxe4 6.Kb6 > -+ (-10.03) Depth: 11/35 00:00:07 5245kN >1.a5 f2 2.a6 f1Q 3.a7 Qxc4+ 4.Kb6 Qxd4+ 5.Ka6 Qxe4 6.Kb6 > -+ (-10.12) Depth: 12/31 00:00:08 5930kN >1.a5-- > -+ (-10.44) Depth: 13/32 00:00:10 7382kN >1.a5-- f2 2.a6 f1Q 3.Kb6 Qxc4 4.b5 e2 5.a7 Qxd4+ 6.Kb7 e1Q > -+ (-13.50) Depth: 13/37 00:00:15 10967kN >1.Kb6! > -+ (-13.47) Depth: 13/37 00:00:20 15303kN >1.Kb6! f2 2.d5 e2 3.d6 e1Q 4.b5 f1Q 5.d7 Qd3 6.Ka6 Qexe4 > -+ (-13.41) Depth: 13/37 00:00:27 21071kN > >(Blass, Tel-aviv 25.09.2001) > >New position >8/8/8/1K6/PPPPPPPP/1k2pppp/8/8 w - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Crafty 18.10: > >1.Kc6 > -+ (-10.12) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 >1.Kc6 Kxc4 > -+ (-12.02) Depth: 2/2 00:00:00 >1.c5 > -+ (-11.62) Depth: 2/2 00:00:00 >1.c5 e2 2.c6 > -+ (-10.17) Depth: 2/2 00:00:00 >1.c5 h2 2.c6 h1Q > -+ (-15.84) Depth: 3/4 00:00:00 >1.c5 h2 2.c6 h1Q > -+ (-15.44) Depth: 4/6 00:00:00 >1.c5 h2 2.c6 h1Q 3.Kb6 > -+ (-15.08) Depth: 4/6 00:00:00 >1.d5 e2 2.d6 e1Q 3.Kc6 > -+ (-14.71) Depth: 4/6 00:00:00 >1.d5 e2 2.d6 e1Q 3.e5 Qxb4+ 4.Kc6 > -+ (-16.18) Depth: 5/8 00:00:00 >1.d5 e2 2.d6 e1Q 3.Kc5 Qxb4+ 4.Kd4 Qd2+ 5.Ke5 > -+ (-17.28) Depth: 6/10 00:00:00 35kN >1.Kc5 f2 2.h5 e2 3.h6 e1Q 4.h7 Qxb4+ 5.Kc6 > -+ (-17.25) Depth: 6/10 00:00:00 84kN >1.Ka6 e2 2.b5 Kxc4 3.b6 e1Q 4.h5 > -+ (-16.92) Depth: 6/10 00:00:00 118kN >1.Ka6 e2 2.b5 e1Q 3.b6 Qxe4 4.b7 Qc6+ 5.Ka7 Qxa4+ 6.Kb6 > -+ (-18.51) Depth: 7/13 00:00:00 168kN >1.d5 e2 2.Kc6 e1Q 3.b5 Qxe4 4.c5 Qxf4 > -+ (-18.48) Depth: 7/13 00:00:00 234kN >1.d5 e2 2.d6 e1Q 3.d7 Qxb4+ 4.Kc6 Qxc4+ 5.Kd6 Qb4+ 6.Kc7 Qa5+ 7.Kd6 Kxa4 > -+ (-18.96) Depth: 8/16 00:00:00 326kN >1.c5 > -+ (-18.56) Depth: 8/16 00:00:01 620kN >1.c5 e2 2.c6 e1Q 3.c7 Qxb4+ 4.Kc6 Qxa4+ 5.Kb7 Qb4+ 6.Kc6 Qc4+ 7.Kb7 Qb5+ 8.Ka7 > -+ (-18.55) Depth: 8/16 00:00:02 715kN >1.c5 e2 2.Kb6 e1Q 3.b5 Qxe4 4.c6 Qxd4+ 5.Kb7 Qxa4 6.b6 > -+ (-19.18) Depth: 9/19 00:00:03 1394kN > >(Blass, Tel-aviv 25.09.2001) >Another position when Crafty's positional score of 7.01 at depth 1 is clearly >wrong > >New position >[D]3K4/8/8/PPP1PPPP/pppp1ppp/8/8/6k1 w - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Crafty 18.10: > >1.a6 > +- (7.01) Depth: 1/2 00:00:00 >1.a6 f3 > ³ (-0.48) Depth: 2/2 00:00:00 >1.e6 > = (-0.08) Depth: 2/2 00:00:00 >1.e6 f3 > = (0.00) Depth: 2/2 00:00:00 >1.e6 d3 2.Kc7 > = (0.18) Depth: 3/3 00:00:00 >1.f6 > ² (0.58) Depth: 3/3 00:00:00 >1.f6 d3 2.Ke7 > ² (0.64) Depth: 3/3 00:00:00 >1.f6 d3 2.f7 d2 3.f8Q d1Q+ 4.Kc7 > = (-0.22) Depth: 4/14 00:00:00 >1.e6 a3 2.e7 a2 3.e8Q a1Q > = (-0.09) Depth: 4/14 00:00:00 >1.h6 d3 2.h7 d2 3.h8Q d1Q+ 4.Ke7 > ² (0.27) Depth: 4/14 00:00:00 >1.h6 d3 2.h7 d2 3.Ke7 h3 4.f6 > = (0.14) Depth: 5/14 00:00:00 >1.h6 d3 2.h7 d2 3.h8Q d1Q+ 4.Kc7 Qd5 5.Qxh4 Qxe5+ > = (0.13) Depth: 6/18 00:00:00 19kN >1.h6 d3 2.Ke7 h3 3.h7 h2 4.h8Q h1Q 5.Qxh1+ Kxh1 > = (-0.21) Depth: 7/18 00:00:00 58kN >1.g6 d3 2.Ke7 d2 3.g7 d1Q 4.g8Q c3 5.f6 > = (-0.09) Depth: 7/18 00:00:00 117kN >1.g6 d3 2.g7 d2 3.g8Q d1Q+ 4.Ke8 g3 5.Qf7 Qd4 6.Qe7 > -+ (-1.67) Depth: 8/22 00:00:00 186kN >1.h6 > µ (-1.27) Depth: 8/22 00:00:00 221kN >1.h6 d3 2.h7 d2 3.h8Q d1Q+ 4.Ke7 Qd5 5.Kf6 h3 6.Qf8 > µ (-0.87) Depth: 8/22 00:00:01 296kN >1.f6 d3 2.f7 d2 3.f8Q d1Q+ 4.Kc8 f3 5.Qd6 Qd3 6.b6 > µ (-0.76) Depth: 8/22 00:00:01 420kN >1.f6 d3 2.f7 d2 3.f8Q d1Q+ 4.Qd6 Qxd6+ 5.exd6 a3 6.Ke7 a2 7.d7 f3 8.c6 a1Q 9.d8Q > ³ (-0.48) Depth: 9/27 00:00:01 573kN >1.f6 d3 2.f7 d2 3.f8Q d1Q+ 4.Qd6 Qxd6+ 5.exd6 h3 6.b6 h2 7.b7 h1Q 8.b8Q b3 > µ (-1.02) Depth: 10/27 00:00:04 1593kN >1.f6 d3 2.f7 d2 3.f8Q d1Q+ 4.Qd6 Qxd6+ 5.exd6 h3 6.b6 h2 7.b7 h1Q 8.b8Q b3 > ³ (-0.62) Depth: 11/30 00:00:07 2743kN >1.f6 d3 2.f7 d2 3.f8Q d1Q+ 4.Qd6 Qxd6+ 5.exd6 a3 6.g6 a2 7.g7 a1Q 8.g8Q Qxa5+ >9.Ke7 Qa7+ 10.Ke6 Qxc5 11.Qxg4+ > ³ (-0.61) Depth: 11/30 00:00:09 3253kN >1.f6 d3 2.f7 d2 3.f8Q d1Q+ 4.Qd6 Qxd6+ 5.exd6 h3 6.c6 h2 7.c7 h1Q 8.c8Q Qxh5 >9.Qxc4 Qxg5+ 10.Kc7 > µ (-0.79) Depth: 12/32 00:00:17 6088kN > >(Blass, Tel-aviv 25.09.2001) > >Uri
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