Author: Mark Young
Date: 04:28:46 09/26/01
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On September 26, 2001 at 06:50:07, Uri Blass wrote: >On September 26, 2001 at 05:26:26, Mark Young wrote: > >>On September 26, 2001 at 02:17:26, Kurt Utzinger wrote: >> >>>On September 25, 2001 at 19:30:10, stuart taylor wrote: >>> >>>>On September 25, 2001 at 18:15:40, john c cook wrote: >>>> >>>>> junior 7 beat chess tiger 14 10 5 5 on two 1.4 ghz Amd >>>>>but on my old 800mhz piii chess tiger 14 beat junior 7 8 5 3 >>>>>all game at 40/2hr 144 meg hash for junior 192 meg hash for chess tiger >>>>>on the piii i belive chess tiger 14 was the best it beat all my other prorgam >>>>>at 40/2hr it look to me that junior 7 on a fast computer see more but i like >>>>>the way chess tiger play chess has any one else come up the same way >>>> >>>>I think Gambit Tiger 2 is the program to try and beat. I think it is stronger >>>>than Chess Tiger 14 overall, from results, and I would be interested to see if >>>>you would find junior doing the the same to GT even on 1.4 Athlon hardware. >>>>S.Taylor >>> >>>I have played hundred of games (40/40') with ChessTiger14 and GambitTiger2 but >>>am still not sure which of these two programs is the stronger one. This >>>conclusion refers to computer matches. Against some programs CT is doing very >>>well and GT bad and sometimes the contrary happens. >>>Regards >>>Kurt >> >> >>I have also been playing many games with Chess Tiger 14, and Gambit Tiger 2. I >>am beginning to suspect that at long time controls on a PIII 1 GHz, and >>somewhere between 1 and 3 min. a move Gambit Tiger 2 becomes the stronger >>program. This is the pattern I am beginning to see, but I need more games to >>draw a firm conclusion. >> >>It seems that Gambit Tiger 2 gains more strength from long time controls then >>any other program I have seen. This may have something to do with its playing >>style, as its attacks seem to become more sound with increased think times. > >Do you mean that your data suggest that Gambittiger2 is stronger than Deep Fritz >at long time controls? GambitTiger is already stronger on my system then Deep Fritz at slow time controls. It will be interesting to see if GambitTiger takes the top spot on the SSDF list with faster hardware. Remember this is only my speculation at this point, this is what I seem to be seeing, that GambitTiger gains more from longer time controls. I was not a big fan of GambitTiger, because it would lose ugly sometimes even against programs it should beat. This problem vanishes when GambitTiger has more think time on my system. At long time controls, Gambit's attack if it fails, Gambit is not positionally busted to the point of losing the endgame. So I see more wins and draws, instead of just wins and losses. It may be more accurate to say at long time controls, GambitTiger attackes when it has more justification. > >Uri
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