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Subject: ChessTiger better at faster,Gambit better at slower.Soon even at faster!

Author: stuart taylor

Date: 17:33:23 09/27/01

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On September 26, 2001 at 05:26:26, Mark Young wrote:

>On September 26, 2001 at 02:17:26, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On September 25, 2001 at 19:30:10, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>On September 25, 2001 at 18:15:40, john c cook wrote:
>>>
>>>> junior 7 beat chess tiger 14   10 5 5  on two 1.4 ghz Amd
>>>>but on my old 800mhz piii  chess tiger 14 beat junior 7  8 5 3
>>>>all game at 40/2hr  144 meg hash for junior  192 meg hash for chess tiger
>>>>on the piii i belive chess tiger 14 was the best it beat all my other prorgam
>>>>at 40/2hr it look to me that junior 7  on a fast computer see more but i like
>>>>the way chess tiger play  chess has any one else come up the same way
>>>
>>>I think Gambit Tiger 2 is the program to try and beat. I think it is stronger
>>>than Chess Tiger 14 overall, from results, and I would be interested to see if
>>>you would find junior doing the the same to GT even on 1.4 Athlon hardware.
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>I have played hundred of games (40/40') with ChessTiger14 and GambitTiger2 but
>>am still not sure which of these two programs is the stronger one. This
>>conclusion refers to computer matches. Against some programs CT is doing very
>>well and GT bad and sometimes the contrary happens.
>>Regards
>>Kurt
>
>
>I have also been playing many games with Chess Tiger 14, and Gambit Tiger 2. I
>am beginning to suspect that at long time controls on a PIII 1 GHz, and
>somewhere between 1 and 3 min. a move Gambit Tiger 2 becomes the stronger
>program.  This is the pattern I am beginning to see, but I need more games to
>draw a firm conclusion.
>
>It seems that Gambit Tiger 2 gains more strength from long time controls then
>any other program I have seen. This may have something to do with its playing
>style, as its attacks seem to become more sound with increased think times.
>
>I few weeks ago I began playing matches at 40 moves in 4 hour time controls to
>see if the pattern I have been seeing held up under this time control. I don’t
>have many games as of yet as it takes 1 day to play 1 game. The results so far
>have been crushing for Gambit Tiger 2.It seems even stronger over the other
>programs at this very long time control.

If that's the case, GT is just my cup-of-tea (i.e. just what I want). I'm not so
concerned about the sportiness of a program as I am for the greatness of the
moves, and if I have to give it a bit more time, fine! Anyway, that would mean
that even in 5 years from now, at around 10-20Ghz, the present version of GT
will still be amongst the top! Maybe even more so than Hiarcs 7.32 (which still
holds its own) is now.
What do you all say to that?!
S.Taylor



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