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Subject: Re: Junior 4,6 Real Power Finally Revealed.

Author: Mark Young

Date: 09:50:19 05/22/98

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On May 22, 1998 at 12:24:49, blass uri wrote:

>
>On May 22, 1998 at 10:22:26, Mark Young wrote:
>
>
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>>I don't know what other people have said in the past. I just think the
>>skill part is making a top program with less knowledege. The programmers
>>need to know what kind of Knowledege
>>they need to give the program. Then letting the program get much of what
>>it needs positionally from its deeper search. If this is done
>>incorrectly the program will play awful chess. Yet these three
>>programmers have the best programs out. To me, it would seems much
>>easyer to just add Knowledege. Not take it away.
>
>I believe the important thing is to add knowledge.
>there are positions all the programs I know do not understand
>in my nunn match I saw that fritz5, Junior4.6 and all the programs I
>know
>do not know to evaluate danger to the king and sometimes the programs
>evaluate one side win for many moves when the result is the opposite
>or draw.
>in the 5th game both programs evaluated the position as more than
>3 pawns for Junior(and a big part of the game as more than 2 pawns for
>Junior)
> and the game was drawn!
>
>other kind of important knowledge is what to search
>and I see that programs are very weak in this knowledge.
>for example no program I know discover that the position kasparov
>resigned
>against deeper blue is a draw.
>an interesting question is what program is less weak than others
>in the knowledge of what to search.
>
>Uri
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I don't know what will be the better concept in the long run. More
knowledge or less. Right now it seems better to just have the right kind
of knowledge with out slowing do the search to much.


Could you post the Kasparov deepblue position. And the correct move to
draw.
I read somewhere that Fritz 5 did find this move. I don't know how long
it took.
If you post the position I will run it and see if it does find this
move.




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