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Subject: Re: palomino 1600mhz and palomino 1800mhz listed for preorder

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 16:17:44 09/28/01

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I have owned a P4 1.5Ghz.  I overclocked it quite a bit (200 mhz or so), and it
was *almost* as fast as the AMD 1.4Ghz I am using now.

On 99% of the applications I use, my AMD 1.4Ghz is faster than my overclocked P4
1.5Ghz.

I've also owned a dual P4 1.7Ghz Xeon system.  And my dual AMD 1.4Ghz system is
over 12% faster on 99% of my applications.

Music & video seems to be much faster on the P4's.  And that's about it.

You're preaching to the choir Eugene.  :)


Slate


On September 28, 2001 at 17:54:39, Eugene Nalimov wrote:

>Probably I don't understand something, but on SpecInt 2k P4 is *overall* better
>than Athlon. And there are lot of applications where P4 is better *on the same
>clock speed*. You can go to the www.spec.org and check the numbers yourself. For
>example, on GCC P4 1.4GHz *base* number is 25% better than Athlon 1.4GHz *peak*
>number.
>
>SpecInt2k for P4/1.4GHz and Athlon/1.4GHz are roughly equivalent -- 499 vs 495,
>but you can buy 2GHz P4 *today*, without any pre-ordering.
>
>Crafty just happened to be the unfortunate application that runs worse on P4
>than on the Athlon *unmodified*. But you don't have that restriction, you can
>modify the source.
>
>Eugene
>
>On September 28, 2001 at 17:26:37, Slater Wold wrote:
>
>>On September 28, 2001 at 17:03:36, Alvaro Jose Povoa Cardoso wrote:
>>
>>>On September 28, 2001 at 16:04:32, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>LP CPU-K7-1400-266 AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1400MHz - 266MHz Socket A $117
>>>>SOON CPU-XP1.6G-266 SOON..! AMD Palomino 1600MHz  $175 $180.41 Link
>>>>SOON CPU-XP1.8G-266 SOON..! AMD Palomino 1800MHz  $265 $273.20
>>>>
>>>>www.ebccomputers.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>kburcham
>>>
>>>
>>>I don't want to be a spoil-sport but please notice that the 1800Mhz plus model
>>>for example is in fact running at 1533Mhz. AMD has given the Palominos their
>>>1500 plus etc. names, and not used the clock speeds of the processors, to move
>>>away from direct comparisons with Intel processor speeds.
>>>In spite of this, I think the Palomino (Athlon XP) series will be the best thing
>>>for chess software and for the great majority of software.
>>>Their integer performance is simply great. I'm planning to get one of those with
>>>a VIA KT266A motherboard.
>>>
>>>The clock speeds of the chips are:
>>>XP 1500 - 1.33GHz
>>>XP 1600 - 1.4GHz
>>>XP 1700 - 1.47GHz
>>>XP 1800 - 1.53GHz
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Alvaro Cardoso
>>
>>Marketing is everything.  But we all know, these AMD CPU's are the best for
>>chess and 99% of the apps we run everyday.
>>
>>And I was a die-hard Intel guy, until the P4's came out.
>>
>>
>>Slate



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