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Subject: Re: New Test (was Test Position. Hard pawn endgame)

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 09:09:27 10/01/01

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On September 30, 2001 at 19:18:53, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:

>On September 30, 2001 at 17:14:38, Roy Eassa wrote:
>
>>On September 30, 2001 at 10:39:50, Miguel A. Ballicora wrote:
>>
>>>[D]8/4k1p1/1p2B2p/4p3/8/4P2P/1PP1KbP1/8 b - - am Bxe3;
>>
>>
>>I think this is a good test.
>>
>>Gambit Tiger 2.0 on an Athlon 1.2 is smart enought to know right away that the
>>pawn ending is not good, but takes a little while to avoid ...Bxe3:
>>
>>00:00:00.1	-0.60	12	210784	Bxe3 Kxe3 Kxe6 c4 h5 Ke4 g5 b4
>>00:00:00.8	-0.64	12	303820	Bxe3 Kxe3 Kxe6 c4 h5 Ke4 Kd6 g3 g5 b4 Ke6
>>00:00:01.7	-0.66	13	722703	Bxe3 Kxe3 Kxe6 c4 h5 g4 hxg4 hxg4 g6 b4 g5 Ke4 Kf6 c5
>>00:00:03.3	-0.68	14	1439003	Bxe3 Kxe3 Kxe6 c4 h5 g4 hxg4 hxg4 g6 b4 Kd6 Ke4 Ke6
>>g5 Kd6 c5+ bxc5 bxc5+ Ke6
>>00:00:07.4	-0.68	15	3460748	Bxe3 Kxe3 Kxe6 c4 h5 g4 hxg4 hxg4 g6 b4 Kd6 Ke4 Ke6
>>g5 Kd6 c5+ bxc5 bxc5+ Ke6
>>00:00:14.6	-0.74	16	6705228	Bxe3 Kxe3 Kxe6 c4 h5 Ke4 h4 b4 Kd6 c5+ bxc5 bxc5+
>>Ke6 c6 Kd6 c7 Kxc7 Kxe5 Kd7
>>00:00:54.4	-0.71	16	24860070	Bg1 Bc4 Kd6 Kf3 g5 g4 Kc5 Be6 Kd6 Bf7 Kc6 Bg8 Kc5
>>Ke4 Kd6 Bc4
>>00:01:28.5	-0.69	16	40056032	Bg3 Kf3 Be1 Bd5 Kd6 c4
>>00:01:55.6	-0.69	17	52088811	Bg3 Kf3 Be1 Bd5 Kd6 c4 Bd2 Ke4 g6 g4 Be1 b3 Bg3 Bf7
>>g5 Bd5 Bf2
>>
>>Not as good as Crafty, but still better than many other engines.
>
>Here is a much tougher test from a real game
>(A. Sokolov - Korchnoi Tilburg 1987)
>Easy endgame? not quite!
>
>A. Sokolov miscalculated and made a mistake, played Rxc5? which ends up losing
>easily. Rb8 puts up a much  tougher resistance with good chances of drawing.
>
>[D]8/2p3pp/8/1RrkP3/8/3K4/6PP/8 w - - am Rxc5;
>
>Not even Crafty gets this right (15 min K6-II 400mhz) Probably
>a problem evaluating the rook endgame because it sees a clear
>disadvantage in the pawn endgame.
>
>Regards,
>Miguel


This is a different problem.  Rxc5 goes into a lost ending with even material.
Any other rook move drops a pawn, which looks just as bad.  It thinks either
case is probably losing...



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