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Subject: Re: JAFM's interesting pawn endgame test position:

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 22:43:27 10/01/01

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On October 02, 2001 at 01:36:28, Dave Gomboc wrote:

>On October 01, 2001 at 21:45:44, Dann Corbit wrote:
>
>>On October 01, 2001 at 21:39:41, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On October 01, 2001 at 21:20:08, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 01, 2001 at 15:30:41, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On October 01, 2001 at 15:18:44, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>To be fair, this is because it thought g4 was also a draw.  If Yace thought
>>>>>>that, too, there isn't a difference.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I'm not trying to apologize for Crafty, but it is dangerous to assume that just
>>>>>>because one program chose the fork in the road that did not lead to an army of
>>>>>>demons, it means that it could see them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Maybe it saw them, I don't know.
>>>>>
>>>>>Of course, every good program will shine on some position and not do as well on
>>>>>others.
>>>>>
>>>>>How does Ferret do on this one?  The machine I used was 950 MHz Athlon for
>>>>>comparison.
>>>>
>>>>It took 35 seconds on a dual 1.2 ghz machine, with tables (but not KPP vs KP).
>>>>The score was 0.00.  Without tables it's been going for a while and hasn't found
>>>>it yet.
>>
>>I am curious about why you don't have kppkp.  It's only 50 megabytes:
>>05/10/2000  12:00a          34,118,774 kppkp.nbb.emd
>>05/10/2000  12:00a          28,762,929 kppkp.nbw.emd
>
>AFAIK Bruce uses his own code for tablebases.  Perhaps he didn't generate KPPKP
>due to en passant issues.
>
>Dave

Maybe he did not generate tthe kpp vs kp tablebases because it is the most
complicated tablebases to generate(you need all the other 5 piece tablebases
except tablebases of king and 3 pieces against king in order to generate the KPP
vs KP tablebases).

Uri



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