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Subject: Re: One mate to solve for Champions!

Author: Paul

Date: 06:52:50 10/02/01

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On October 02, 2001 at 08:41:20, leonid wrote:

>[D]kq4BK/pq4QQ/2qq1P2/1NnqBnN1/3PpP2/2P2r2/RQ4qr/RQ4bb w - -
>
>I have said that this position is for "Champions" only having in mind that some
>people will try to solve it by brute force. Brute force is the only way to know
>minimal nomber of moves that lead to mate. But it could be not all the time
>easy. When I tried this position on two professional program, I was impressed.
>On Celeron 600Mhz, and with 1M of hash, one expected to solve position in around
>4000 years. Other, with no hash, after around 11000000000 years of thinking
>expected to recognize shortest mate.
>
>Please indicate your result.
>
>Thanks,
>Leonid.

Hi Leonid,

I just now started to look at both your positions, the simple one from yesterday
and this one, and I think you have a bit of a twisted nomenclature!

This one is the simple one, the other one is more difficult. Even if this one
seems to be a mate in 12, and the other in 9. But maybe that's only the case for
Pretz, I'm curious about LLchess.

For this one I find a mate in 12 in 3 seconds by applying some gentle force:

00:03 WM12 12 Rxa7+ Q8xa7 Rxa7+ Kb8 Rxb7+ Nxb7 Qf8+ Qc8 Qxc8+ Kxc8 Nxd6+ Nfxd6
Be6+ Kd8 Qb6+ Ke8 Bd7+ Kf8 Bxd6+ Nxd6 Qb8+ Nc8 Qxc8#

With colors switched it's a mate in 2 ... ;)

Groetjes,
Paul



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