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Subject: Re: Fritz5

Author: Moritz Berger

Date: 13:34:32 05/23/98

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On May 23, 1998 at 16:11:04, Wayne Lowrance wrote:

>I am seeking opinion information on the playing strength of Fritz 5.
>I have ordered Fritz5, not yet received it. I have been reading internet
>stuff that alarms me about Fritz5. Such as.
>
>Its current number 1 ranking ahead of nimzo98 and others is biased in
>favor of fritz because of a testing platform that may be friendly too
>Fritz, 100 meg of ram, not the version as the commercial version etc and
>on it goes.

44 MB for hash tables minimum tested, same engine as the commercial
version. Tested on P200MMX, i.e. a P100 would fill hash tables less than
half as fast (less than 22 MB as fast as a P200MMX would do with 44MB).

>
>A test of all the top programs is reported where all programs start at a
>pre designated open position, all opening books are turned off. Fritz
>finished 9th in this test which suggests to me that just maybe it does
>not play as strong in endgame as other programs, like 8 others.

Nunn test results from a set of starting positions (without book) see
http://www.chessbaseusa.com/fritz5/index.htm

>The program, i learned does not come with a CD titled "powerbook" which
>is apparently very important to its rating, at least I understand that
>powerbook is used in all its games.

If you have plenty of room on your harddisk, you can simply create your
own "powerbook" e.g. from the 300.000 games database that ships with
Fritz or from public domain sources (e.g. the Crafty wall book).

>I am pleased to say that I have been told that I may return the program
>and purchase another program suchs as perhaps nimzo98  etc.

Nimzo is also very strong.

>By way of background I have been playing my oldest Son chess, program
>and against program. We started out with him using Sargon 5 on MAC
>g3-233 and I using CM5K on a laptop 100 meg pentium. cm5k usually won.
>He purchased Hiarcs4 or 5 not sure as I write and I loose with cm5k all
>the time ! I want to be the rascal, so i am looking for the best of the
>best, iE;
>Fritz5
>Nimzo98
>Hiuarcs 6.0
>Rebel 9.0
>Mchess Pro 7
>etc.
>
>I am as I said using a Toshiba  laptop pentium 100, with 40 meg of ram
>and lots of hard drive.
>
>Shower me with opinions please--I do not have but a couple of days to
>decide wheather to send Fritz5 back when I get it or keep it.

Fritz has a very good track record on chess servers, sounds roughly like
the kind of environment you plan to use it in (competitive
computer-computer matches).

>P.S. Are there plans that Fritz5 is going to fadeaway as implied in one
>of the open letters this site titled "Fritz finds great move" or
>something likek that.

Fadeaway?

>Thanks folks  Wayne Lowrance

More information about Fritz on www.chessbase.com

Fritz 5 reviews at
http://www.chessbase.com/products/fritz5/reviews/index.htm
(mine is at http://www.chessbase.com/products/fritz5/reviews/berger.htm

Information about Junior 4.6 (current world champion) on
www.chessbase.com (but you need Fritz to run it, it operates as an
optional chess playing engine module in Fritz)

Information about Genius 5, M-Chess 7, Nimzo 98, Shredder 2 on
www.computerchess.de

Information about Rebel 9 at www.rebel.nl
(also reviews)

Hiarcs 6 (DOS version, there's also a version that runs as an optional
engine module in Fritz) at http://www.acc-ltd.demon.co.uk/

Information about Chess System Tal at
http://www.demon.co.uk/oxford-soft/


Strong freeware:

Crafty 15.8 at ftp.cis.uab.edu/pub/hyatt   (read faq and readme for more
information, also about where to get the graphical winboard)

Rebel Decade 2.0 at www.rebel.nl

Comet A90 at www.gambitsoft.com



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