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Subject: Re: Really weird SSDF game

Author: Helmut Conrady

Date: 23:15:29 10/02/01

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On October 02, 2001 at 15:30:45, stuart taylor wrote:

>On October 02, 2001 at 04:46:09, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 02, 2001 at 04:38:33, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>
>>>On October 02, 2001 at 03:25:00, Harald Faber wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 02, 2001 at 03:01:20, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>[Event "Junior7-MCP8"]
>>>>>[Site "SSDF"]
>>>>>[Date "2001.??.??"]
>>>>>[Round "29"]
>>>>>[White "COMP Junior 7 AMD K6-2 450"]
>>>>>[Black "COMP MCP8 AMD K6-2 450"]
>>>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>>>[ECO "B17"]
>>>>>[PlyCount "15"]
>>>>>[EventDate "2001.08.20"]
>>>>>
>>>>>1. e4 c6 2. Nc3 d5 3. d4 dxe4 4. Nxe4 Nd7 5. Bd3 Ngf6 6. Ng5 h6 7. Ne6 fxe6 8.
>>>>>Bg6#
>>>>>
>>>>>Is there book hole in MCP8 or cannot it see mate in 1 ???!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>Jouni
>>>>
>>>>I have no idea. I checked it now. There must have been s.th. wrong in the
>>>>opening book setup. Tournament moves are 6...e7-e6 (d) and 6...Nd7-b6 (e) so
>>>>those moves will be played preferably. The other book moves, c6-c5, Qd8-b6,
>>>>h7-h6, Qd8-c7, e7-e5 and g7-g6 have no flag for tournament move.
>>>>
>>>>And after 7.Ne6 MCP starts to calculate and certainly does not play that ugly
>>>>fxe6??. After 5 minutes on my K7-600 best move is Qa5 with -0.09/11.
>>>>
>>>>I suspect setup problem or autoplayer-influence.
>>>>This leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. How many other games have been played
>>>>with a wrong setup? I know that your example is a very tough one, but who can
>>>>tell that the source for this did not harm some other programs in some other
>>>>games?
>>>
>>>But I think/hope, that in 100s of games the effect of some erroneous ones is
>>>unimportant! And probably effecting all engines as well...
>>>
>>>Jouni
>>
>>Maybe it effects Dos programs more than windows programs.
>>I do not know.
>>
>>I remember that Ed found also problems with Rebel and Mchess.
>>
>>Uri
>
>But all such happenings MUST be searched out and replayed, if that is possible.
>S.Taylor

That´s exactly the problem. Who shall decide, which games have to be replayed
and which not?

Helmut



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