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Subject: Re: Brute Force

Author: Sergei Smith

Date: 07:03:03 10/04/01

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On October 03, 2001 at 16:17:55, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On October 03, 2001 at 15:50:36, Sergei Smith wrote:
>
>>A couple of centuries ago they had never heard of
>>"Najdorf" so we can assume that in the future new and
>>better openings will be developed that
>>would currently still be considered A00 irregulars and
>>that new variations or completely new openings will be
>>used that we currently do not even expect.
>>
>>My purpose was to build a shallow/broad opening book.
>>I wanted to run a 6-ply or maybe an 8-ply brute
>>force search and import all EPD into an experimental
>>opening book for the ChessBase GUI.
>>Here arises another problem since the GUI will build
>>its book from moves but not from positions.
>>To this end we need to look to "all possible moves"
>>within 6|8 ply from the start position
>>instead of "all possible positions".
>>If you want to help with this project, be welcome.
>
>There is a truly monumental distance between 6 ply and 8 ply.
>There is no purpose beyond analyzing the positions.  If you can get to the same
>board position 12,000 ways, why analyze it more than once?
>
>Here is the number of moves to get to just 6 ply: 119,060,324

Actually its: ply 6 Nodes=119060324 = 24,47xply

This number _could_ still be imported but analysis is another matter.



>
>88,319,013,353 is the total for 8 ply.  That's billions with a 'B' ;-)
>
>I suggest that you use Bookup instead.  It will import EPD and be happy with
>that.


As far as I remember the Bookup demo does not import anything.
And the full ver$ion is a rip-off, I read. They won't catch me.


>There are almost 15,000 certain checkmates just within the first 5 plies.  Why
>will you want to try to analyze positions forward from that?  In other words,
>once you know some position is a mate in 3, there is no point to analyze the
>next two plies from there.



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