Author: Enrique Irazoqui
Date: 12:11:38 05/24/98
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On May 24, 1998 at 14:54:16, Thorsten Czub wrote: >>Amen. >> >>Many of us made exactly this same point before, to no avail. When all >>comments about Fritz 5 and the SSDF are systematically negative, their >>meaning regard exclusively the objectivity of the author of these >>comments. > >Pah - I have complained about those testing methods a long time. >Even when I met Thoralf in 1993 he knew about me not beeing their >biggest fan. >And despite this they tested hiarcs AFTER he won chamionship 1993 >NOT on equal hardware than the TOP program genius. >Straighten your prejudices ! >in 1993 fritz5 was not leading the list and where were you 1993 ? >So - this is not the question of objectivity here. >That you only come with prejudice whenever I say something negative >towards >ssdf or fritz5 does not show big insights, or ? Your only comments about SSDF and Fritz 5 have been negative, even insulting. Not one single positive comment about Fritz 5 among so many negative remarks does have a meaning, as many people commented here. Pick on the SSDF, testing sometimes, as they did with all programs, on unequal hardware. Fine. Then pay attention to the games played by the SSDF on equal platforms: P200MMX. Fritz 5 played 182 games of this kind against Genius 5, Hiarcs 6, Rebel 9, Mchess 7.1 and Shredder 2. The cream of the crop. In this 182 games, Fritz 5 scored 59%. Now, you didn't notice/mention this. Why? Not one single positive comment about Fritz 5 and a zillion negative ones. Why? >>Thorsten: aside from the SSDF, Fritz 5 has been doing very well in games >>played by me and by Mark, > >who is mark ? Mark Young. I forgot to mention Moritz's games too... Games played manually and through the autoplayer by: - SSDF on equal platforms against the best: 59% for Fritz - Me, also on equal platforms against the best: 52% - Mark Young on ICC, with great results - Moritz, also with great results - In human tournaments against strong opposition. F5 performed very well. All wrong, Thorsten? If Fritz 5 is "week" as you say, what are all the others? Enrique >>manually or not. Fritz 5 has been doing very >>well too against strong human opponents. I have yet to see a positive >>comment from you about anything at all regarding Fritz 5. Of course, you >>don't have to. But since you are so actively involved in commenting >>Fritz 5, it is difficult to take your criticisms as anything but an >>emotional outburst. >> >>Enrique > > >You can evaluate my output as much as you want. I will also critisize >this testing methods in the moment fritz5 is again there where it came >from, rank 18. >And than you can begin with another prejudice and say I have something >against >XYZ or that i am biased FOR abc or cde. >You can create as much prejudice as you want. >This does only show how senseless it is to speak with people who project >their own prejudices into other people. >It seems to be very difficult if somebody only knows to kind of stages: >friend or enemie and wants to VALUE the world like you do. > >I see no sense in testing different kind of hardware. >No matter WHICH software you choose. >If this is my mistake, ok. But don't try to fog with "hatred" or not >"hatred" . >Because the history of major mistakes done by the ssdf is older than you >try to suggest here. >Eat this. Make a research about the days of dedicated machines. >Reconsider. And stop projecting your prejudices. >Thanks.
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