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Subject: Re: Question about see

Author: Paul

Date: 16:15:19 10/05/01

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On October 05, 2001 at 14:59:28, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 05, 2001 at 12:33:06, José Carlos wrote:
>
>>  Due to recent posts about SEE, I've decided to implement it. I have a doubt.
>>In this position:
>>
>>[D]6rk/3n4/6p1/8/8/3B4/P2R4/7K w - - 0 1
>>
>>  white has only a capture: Bxg6. If I understood right, SEE looks only for
>>captures in one square, so it will try: Bxg6 Rxg6 and I'm losing a bishop for a
>>pawn. So SEE will tell me Bxg6 loses, and I'll discard a move that actually
>>gives me a pawn for free. Is this correct?
>>
>>  José C.
>
>
>That is correct.  But notice this is only "discarded" somewhere in the
>q-search (in my case.)  I _never_ throw moves out in the normal search.
>This will be searched near the end, because it looks like it loses a
>piece for a pawn.  But it _will_ be searched.  The q-search will be wrong.
>But then it is possible that your RxN can't be played either because your
>rook might be pinned.  That gets too complicated for this kind of simple/static
>analysis...
>
>The q-search is _full_ of errors, because it is by definition not exhaustive
>at all.  Which means it overlooks pins. forks, skewers, etc already.  What's
>one more small error tree in that forest?  :)

Bob, could you explain what you mean by 'it overlooks pins'?

Groetjes,
Paul



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