Author: Thorsten Czub
Date: 15:28:20 05/24/98
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On May 24, 1998 at 15:11:38, Enrique Irazoqui wrote: >>Pah - I have complained about those testing methods a long time. >>Even when I met Thoralf in 1993 he knew about me not beeing their >>biggest fan. >>And despite this they tested hiarcs AFTER he won chamionship 1993 >>NOT on equal hardware than the TOP program genius. >>Straighten your prejudices ! >>in 1993 fritz5 was not leading the list and where were you 1993 ? >>So - this is not the question of objectivity here. >>That you only come with prejudice whenever I say something negative >>towards >>ssdf or fritz5 does not show big insights, or ? > >Your only comments about SSDF and Fritz 5 have been negative, even >insulting. Not one single positive comment about Fritz 5 among so many >negative remarks does have a meaning, as many people commented here. So - where were you critics when hiarcs was not tested on equal hardware for ONE year ??? You say I have insulted somebody. Please name the insult. I don't have to say something positive in public when i want to critisize something (the exception they have done to chessBase=Fritz). My fritz does not play that strong. Did you forgot. Also I don't let MY fritz play against hiarcs on p90 with 16 !!! MB hash ! I don't have a p90 anymore. And i don't see sense in rating fritz on the base of hiarcs running on a non MMX machine, that is not as fast and gets as much ram. I don't see a reason to do this. >Pick on the SSDF, testing sometimes, as they did with all programs, on >unequal hardware. Fine. Right. FINE. But - as you can see: it does not change anything. As a foreigner, ... >Then pay attention to the games played by the >SSDF on equal platforms: P200MMX. Fritz 5 played 182 games of this kind >against Genius 5, Hiarcs 6, Rebel 9, Mchess 7.1 and Shredder 2. These games cannot be counted. The fritz5 autoplayer is not publically available. Also hiarcs is NOT using a special separate book (550 MB) on cd like fritz is doing. Hiarcs needs equal conditions, or ? > The >cream of the crop. In this 182 games, Fritz 5 scored 59%. Now, you >didn't notice/mention this. Why? As i said, these games cannot be count. the fritz5 autoplayer is not publically available like the one in hiarcs, genius, rebel, nimzo, shredder and and and. Also my fritz does not play that strong. And I know other people, who don't want to be named here, because they don't wanna talk with people like you and Moritz (sorry) , who cannot follow your famous results. >Not one single positive comment about Fritz 5 and a zillion negative >ones. Why? What is this , a balance of comments ? Do I have to be nice to fritz to be right or wrong ? I have to speak out what i see. When I see unfair behaviour, I will say it. Why should i talk about POSITIVE things when I want to hint on disadvantages in competitions. This is not the kindergarden Enrique. YOUR CHILD Fritz will not commit suicide only because I do not be nice to it. >Games played manually and through the autoplayer by: which manually games you refer too ? > >- SSDF on equal platforms against the best: 59% for Fritz >- Me, also on equal platforms against the best: 52% >- Mark Young on ICC, with great results manually 40/120 games ? >- Moritz, also with great results >- In human tournaments against strong opposition. F5 performed very >well. > >All wrong, Thorsten? If Fritz 5 is "week" as you say, what are all the >others? > >Enrique Stronger enrique. And stronger than the ssdf-list shows. Since they cheat with the conditions. Fritz is weak - you don't know about ?
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