Author: Walter Koroljow
Date: 17:01:04 10/06/01
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On October 05, 2001 at 13:14:54, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On October 05, 2001 at 12:34:22, Ashwin P. Phatak wrote: > >>Since the early days of AI (Artificial Intelligence) people have agreed on one >>thing: that a good AI system should mimic or behave like humans, even fail where >>humans would [Turing test]. >>However, computer chess programmers did not pay any attention to this - only >>winning was important. The quest now is only to see who is better - man or >>machine. I do not doubt that eventually programs like those available today will >>defeat the best chess players in the world. However, I would rather like to see >>a program which is "human" - which tries to evaluate positions the way humans >>do, which makes mistakes, learns from them, and which "enjoys" a hard fought >>victory. A program which learns how individual opponents play, and devises >>strategies based on the opponent. A program, which uses psychological tactics. >>This is what I call Real AI. This is the real goal of AI. >> >>The question is not just of philosophical interest - I think if such a program >>is written, it will help in other areas of AI also. I wonder what contribution >>the number-crunching approach has made to other fields. It is not general enough >>and is impossible to apply where the complexity is high.The time is ripe to try >>a new approach. >> >>I am interested in writing a program which uses this "human" approach.If you >>want to join me,you are welcome. >>Regards, >>Ashwin. > >How is it going to work? > >bruce Bruce and Ashwin, I recently (barely) found time to read Botvinnik's "Articles and Reminiscences" written circa 1988. He talks interminably the way Ashwin does. That was the goal of the last twenty years+ of his life. He claims to have succeeded -- not in his chess program, but in the basic approach. He says that his algorithm was used successfully to schedule maintenance for power stations. It was used and was so successful that it was then improved and used again with its greater capabilities (if I recall, it took into account personnel constraints). He says that there were numerous publications of his ideas (including some in English), but I have not checked them. My point: Ashwin -- before you spend years on this project, check what has been done; Bruce -- someone claims that there exists an approach which has passed the review of referees and book publishers. Perhaps it is not just wishware. Walter
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