Author: Jorge Pichard
Date: 14:39:56 10/07/01
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On October 07, 2001 at 15:56:07, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 07, 2001 at 15:33:28, Jorge Pichard wrote: > >>On October 07, 2001 at 14:41:15, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On October 07, 2001 at 14:21:30, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>> >>>>On October 07, 2001 at 10:30:27, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 07, 2001 at 10:19:37, Jorge Pichard wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On October 07, 2001 at 08:10:15, stuart taylor wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>Also, you can't get anywhere by playing against the SAME program but at >>>>>>>different speeds. The slower one will NEVER win, because the one on fast speed >>>>>>>knows everything that the one on Palm knows, and at a fraction of the time. >>>>>>> But you MIGHT be a bit luckier if you played Palm Tiger vs. Deep Fritz, or >>>>>>>Deep Junior. >>>>>>>S.Taylor >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>A fair match could only be accomplished by pairing Chess Tiger on a Palm III xe >>>>>>16 MHz with 8 MB memory Versus Fritz 6e on a Pentium 90 MHz. Now that could be >>>>>>an interesting match. A match of 30 games at 20 Min per side. >>>>>> >>>>>>Pichard. >>>>> >>>>>palm tiger has no chance against p90 >>>>> >>>>>I remember that the pocket PC is 10 times faster than the palm >>>>>The pocket PC is slower than p90 so p90 is more than 10 times faster than the >>>>>palm. >>>>> >>>>>Uri >>>> >>>> >>>>You are right Uri a P90 is too powerful for a mere Palm III xe, in that case if >>>>somebody has an old Pentium 200 MHz with Fritz 6e and match it against an iPaq >>>>of 206 MHz with Chess Tiger 14.6, then we will have an even match. >>> >>>No >>> >>>Even here is is not a fair match and the MHZ is misleading. >>> >>>I compared the speed of my p200MMX(shredder5.32) with the speed of shredder on >>>the pocket PC (pocket Fritz is the name of shredder on the pocket PC) and I >>>found that my p200 is at least 5 times faster. >>> >>>I have no pocket PC and the comparison was based on analysis that was posted >>>here with the pocket PC. >>> >>>Uri >> >>Sorry Uri, but I'am like St. Thomas I would like to see somebody actually test >>the iPaq H3670 against a P200MMX. > >I already did it in comparing the time the ipaq needed to solve some test >positions with the time that my p200 needed to do it. > >my p200 is at least 5 times faster based on my test. >I read that for Genius it is only 4 times faster. > > Otherwise how can people claim that a mere >>Palm III xe with only 16 MHz 8 MB memory can produce a 2200 Elo Using Chess >>Tiger 14.6. > >I think that I guessed 2100-2200 and not 2200. > > Whereas the iPaq h3670 is almost 10 times faster, then we should be >>able to reach at least a 2460 Elo. > > >I believe that the top programs of today can get 2460 on 486 hardware and my >impression is that the pocket pc is at the same speed as 486. > >Fritz3 already got an IM norm on p90 some years ago. >p90 is faster than 486 but the top programs of today are better than Fritz3. > >Uri You are right again that a iPaq h3670 is almost equal to a 486 running at 100 MHz or equal to a p75 and by comparing fritz3 which got an IM on a p90 some years ago, but remember that the iPaq will also be using the latest and best software which could not be compared to fritz3. Pichard.
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