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Subject: Re: Does SSDF list show diminishing returns? Some calculations

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 03:07:01 10/08/01

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On October 08, 2001 at 03:13:22, Jouni Uski wrote:

>In latest SSDF list benefit from Athlon 1200 Mhz to K6-2 450 Mhz is:
>
>Deep Fritz      72
>Gambit Tiger	80
>Tiger           71
>Shredder        99
>Junior          55
>Gandalf        142
>
>In average this is +84 points (weighted by number of games). In CSS 1/01 there
>is some benchmarks for Atlon with all these program. I compared them to my own
>K6-450 and got speedup:
>
>Deep Fritz      3,40
>Junior          3,43
>Shredder        4,73
>Tiger(both)     2,67
>Gandalf         5,30
>
>In average 3,70. This gives (log2/log3,7)*84 = 45 points for speed doubling.
>Previously it has been spoken about 60-70 points for doubling, so there is
>diminishing returns now!
>
>Jouni

I think that the reason may be the fact that opening books
start to dominate when the hardware gets better.

It may be interesting to get a nunn2 rating list when programs play without
opening books.

I believe that the nunn2 positions are complicated enough so the result is
practically not decided in them by the initial position.

I already do the nunn2 match between Tiger14 and Deep Fritz at depth 13 on p850.

I think that I wasted 160 hours of computer time about these game and Tiger is
leading 23-18.

This result proves nothing and I need to do the match of depth 13 against
depthes 12 and 11 and to compare them with the results of small depthes in order
to get information if there is a diminishoing returns in the nunn2 match.

The results did not suggest significant diminishing returns at small depthes.

Uri



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