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Subject: Re: Does SSDF list show diminishing returns? Some calculations

Author: Jouni Uski

Date: 03:19:37 10/08/01

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On October 08, 2001 at 06:07:01, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 08, 2001 at 03:13:22, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>In latest SSDF list benefit from Athlon 1200 Mhz to K6-2 450 Mhz is:
>>
>>Deep Fritz      72
>>Gambit Tiger	80
>>Tiger           71
>>Shredder        99
>>Junior          55
>>Gandalf        142
>>
>>In average this is +84 points (weighted by number of games). In CSS 1/01 there
>>is some benchmarks for Atlon with all these program. I compared them to my own
>>K6-450 and got speedup:
>>
>>Deep Fritz      3,40
>>Junior          3,43
>>Shredder        4,73
>>Tiger(both)     2,67
>>Gandalf         5,30
>>
>>In average 3,70. This gives (log2/log3,7)*84 = 45 points for speed doubling.
>>Previously it has been spoken about 60-70 points for doubling, so there is
>>diminishing returns now!
>>
>>Jouni
>
>I think that the reason may be the fact that opening books
>start to dominate when the hardware gets better.
>
>It may be interesting to get a nunn2 rating list when programs play without
>opening books.
>
>I believe that the nunn2 positions are complicated enough so the result is
>practically not decided in them by the initial position.
>
>I already do the nunn2 match between Tiger14 and Deep Fritz at depth 13 on p850.
>
>I think that I wasted 160 hours of computer time about these game and Tiger is
>leading 23-18.
>
>This result proves nothing

True. May be Tiger uses always 2 times more time to reach same depth. Why not
simple test with same time level for both!?

Jouni



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