Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 08:23:38 10/11/01
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On October 11, 2001 at 00:43:57, Slater Wold wrote: >On October 11, 2001 at 00:27:17, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On October 10, 2001 at 22:55:27, Slater Wold wrote: >> >>>On October 10, 2001 at 22:36:01, Robert Hyatt wrote: >>> >>>>On October 10, 2001 at 16:55:16, Olaf Jenkner wrote: >>>> >>>>>>Some took hours on a Cray (Stiller). Figure months on a PC for those. >>>>>>No idea how long the really bad ones will take (kppkpp for example.) >>>>>>The promotion cases will certainly take a _long_ while... >>>>> >>>>>Didn't use Stiller the connection machine? >>>>>I remember that I read 1991 about this. >>>>> >>>>>OJe >>>> >>>> >>>>He used both. Burton Wendroff/Tony Warnock got him some time on a C90 >>>>sometime in the 1993 time frame... The advantage of the C90 is that it >>>>comes with 32 gigabytes of RAM, which was helpful for making the generator >>>>run very fast... Of course, he didn't do any compression, and he couldn't >>>>write the files out to anything for saving them... but he did compute some >>>>statistics about them before chucking them. >>> >>>Any idea where to get those statistics Bob? >> >> >>I believe Lewis published some of them quite some while back. But the >>thing he published was mainly "deepest mate" and the like. I didn't follow >>this very closely, and only remember Wendroff asking for "my contact" up at >>Cray in trying to set the time up... > >Ok. Thanks. > >> >> >> >> >>> >>>Who is compiling them now? >> >>Only Eugene so far as I know... > >On what? And how is he doing the 6 pieces? I thought you needed a 64-bit OS >and a LOT of memory and HD space. Last I heard he was using some "unused" alphas at microsoft. Since MS no longer supports the alpha with NT, the machines were free and he grabbed them. :) > >> >> >> >>> >>>How hard is it to get time on a Cray? >>> >> >>Have you noticed a "lack" of "cray blitz"? Draw your own conclusion. :) > >Well, it was running at one time! What's the difference between then and now!?! we could get time to play in one tournament a year. Maybe a few nights of testing between 1am and 5am if we were lucky. > >> >>The machines sell for $60,000,000.00 or so. So yes, it takes a lot of >>haggling to get time... > >Jeez.... > >> >>At one time CPU time was going for $20,000 per hour... > >Man oh man. I went looking up Cray's, (other than www.cray.com) and all I could >find was crap about Cray, Inc. suing the United States of America. (The CIA was >one of the organizations involved.) > Not sure what that is about. The US Government (the NSA and other "black" agencies as well) are their best customers. NSA has a "cluster" of crays if you can call that a "cluster". :) >So renting one for a day is pretty much outta the question for me.....as I don't >have $480,000 to blow. > >What a shame. > >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >>> >>>Slate
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