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Subject: Re: New test position (positional theme)

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 15:58:01 05/25/98

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On May 25, 1998 at 14:39:09, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On May 25, 1998 at 10:59:50, blass uri wrote:
>
>>
>>On May 25, 1998 at 05:56:08, Moritz Berger wrote:
>>
>>>Here's an interesting 'positional' test position:
>>>
>>>1k1r4/pp1bb1p1/1qn1p3/3pPr1p/1P6/P4NPP/4BPK1/R1BQ3R w - - 0 19
>>>
>>>The (positional) key move is 19.Bb2!! which leads to a clear advantage
>>>for white (e.g. 19.Bb2 Rc8 20.Nd4 Nxd4 21.Bxd4). 19.b5 only ensures
>>>equality, 19.Bf4 (actually played by one program) lets black play
>>>another beautiful key move: 19...h4!
>>>
>>>1k1r4/pp1bb1p1/1qn1p3/3pPr1p/1P3B2/P4NPP/4BPK1/R2Q3R b - - 0 19
>>>
>>>
>>>How long do your programs need to play 19.Bb2 and 19...h4 (after
>>>19.Bf4)? 19...h4 is of course much easier than 19.Bb2.
>>
>>junior evaluates the position after 19.Bb2 as adventage for black
>>it suggest 19...h4 with a possible line
>>20.g4 Rff8 21.Rc1 a6 22.Rc2 Rc8 23.Qd3 g5 24.b5 axb5 25.Qxb5 Qa7
>>26.Rhc1 Ka8 27.Qd3 Qa4 28.Qe3 Rcd8 29.Qb6 Rf4 30.Bd1 Qa7
>>31.Qxa7+ Kxa7 32.Be2
>>when all white moves are suggested by Fritz5 and all black moves by
>>Junior
>>
>>fritz5 evaluate the position as something like 1 pawn adventage for
>>white all
>>the time while Junior4.6 evaluates the position as somethink like .5
>>pawn
>>adventage for black during these moves.
>>I have no idea who is right(I think we should ask a grandmaster).
>>
>>Uri
>
>
>
>personally, I would trust Fritz on tactics, but I'd trust Junior on the
>positional evaluation.  I think that this would be an easy position for
>"self-immolution".  White has difficulties in this position.  And a
>program
>that only looks for active play can easily open the position up and have
>it
>explode in its face...
>
>the question here is whether to begin to shore up the kingside by over-
>protecting f2 (among other weak squares) or to try and punch something
>thru in the center.  The queenside seems difficult to crack while black
>can
>play g5 and threaten to bring a can-opener to the kindside...

On my PC Hiarcs6 prefered Bd3 and Fritz liked Pb5. Anyway its certainly
a position with a lot of different possible defence moves.

Torstein Hall



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