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Subject: Re: I got it.........

Author: Slater Wold

Date: 20:12:54 10/11/01

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On October 11, 2001 at 22:51:46, Dann Corbit wrote:

>I originally thought I might have found a bug in Yace, but I don't think that is
>the case now.  Rather, I think this position is broken.  Does a human player
>know if Kf7 really is unbreakable?  If it is, then every program I have tested
>is wrong (not unimaginable).
>
>[D]8/8/6K1/k2p4/2p5/2P4p/3P3P/8 w - - bm Kf7; id "(JAFM F. Dedrle,1928)"; c0
>"Yace says Kf5 is a draw (analysis 31 plies).  Nobody likes Kf7 long term";

Deep Junior 7 - W,S
8/8/6K1/k2p4/2p5/2P4p/3P3P/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Deep Junior 7:

1.Kf5 Ka4 2.Ke6
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 6   00:00:01
1.Kf5 Ka4 2.Ke6
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 6   00:00:01
1.Kf5 Ka4 2.Ke6
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 6   00:00:01
1.Kf5 Ka4 2.Ke6
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 6   00:00:01
1.Kf5 Ka4 2.Ke6
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 6   00:00:01
1.Kf5 Ka4 2.Ke6
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 6   00:00:01
1.Kf5!
  ²  (0.51)   Depth: 9   00:00:01
1.Kf5!
  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 12   00:00:01  2kN
1.Kf5! Ka4 2.Ke5 Kb3 3.Kxd5 Kc2 4.Kxc4 Kxd2
  ±  (0.83)   Depth: 12   00:00:01  4kN
1.Kf5 Ka4 2.Ke5 Kb3 3.Kxd5 Kc2 4.Kxc4 Kxd2 5.Kd4
  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 15   00:00:01  8kN
1.Kf5 Kb5 2.Kf4 Kc5 3.Kg3 d4 4.Kxh3 Kd5 5.Kg4 Ke4
  ±  (0.99)   Depth: 18   00:00:01  24kN, tb=13
1.Kf5 Kb6 2.Kg4 Ka5 3.Kxh3
  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 21   00:00:01  104kN, tb=103
1.Kf5 Kb5 2.Kf4 Kc5 3.Kg3 Kd6 4.Kxh3 Ke5 5.Kg3 Ke4 6.h4 Kd3
  ±  (0.78)   Depth: 24   00:00:02  251kN, tb=378
1.Kf5 Kb5 2.Kf4 Kc5 3.Kg3 Kd6 4.Kxh3 Ke5 5.Kg4 Ke4 6.h4 Kd3 7.h5 d4 8.cxd4 Kxd4
  ±  (0.91)   Depth: 27   00:00:03  427kN, tb=1041
1.Kf5 Kb5
  ²  (0.61)   Depth: 30   00:00:06  1025kN, tb=3133
1.Kf5 Kb5 2.Kf4 Kc5 3.Kg4 d4 4.Kf3 dxc3 5.dxc3 Kb6 6.Kf4 Kb5 7.Ke4 Ka4
  ²  (0.32)   Depth: 33   00:00:10  2203kN, tb=7372
1.Kf5 Kb5
  =  (0.02)   Depth: 36   00:00:19  5403kN, tb=16686
1.Kf5 Kb5 2.Kf4 Kc6 3.Kg4 d4 4.Kf3 dxc3 5.dxc3 Kd5 6.Kf4 Kd6 7.Kg4 Ke5 8.Kh4 Kf4
9.Kxh3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 39   00:00:33  10689kN, tb=33511
1.Kf7 Kb5 2.Ke7 Kc5 3.Kd7 d4 4.Ke6 dxc3 5.dxc3 Kc6 6.Ke5 Kc5 7.Ke4 Kc6 8.Ke3 Kd7
9.Kf2 Ke6 10.Kg3
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 39   00:00:39  12058kN, tb=40673
1.Kf7 Kb5
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 42   00:01:18  34308kN, tb=88522
1.Kf7 Kb5 2.Ke7 Kc5 3.Kd7 d4 4.Ke6 dxc3 5.dxc3 Kc6 6.Ke5 Kc5 7.Ke4 Kc6 8.Ke3 Kd5
9.Kf4 Kd6 10.Kg4
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 45   00:02:55  114097kN, tb=238289
1.Kf7 Kb5 2.Ke7 Kc5 3.Kd7 d4 4.Ke6 dxc3 5.dxc3 Kc6 6.Ke5 Kc5 7.Ke4 Kc6 8.Ke3 Kd5
9.Kf4 Kd6
  =  (0.01)   Depth: 47   00:16:44  1498229kN, tb=1595350

(W,  11.10.2001)

I was a little confused on your first post.  Does Kf7 draw, and all others lose?





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